# Old School Mafia Reunion (newer players welcome too)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 30, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487 "2016-11-30T20:33:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/101 "2016-12-02T05:46:28Z")

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> [@bufftabby](#):
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> 😻 _bear hugs_

Hugs and kisses right back (and yes, the bear is so cute 😉)  
It has been too long. I hope you still enjoy your coffee with love from me 💏

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/102 "2016-12-02T05:51:42Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
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> _waves to total ulla and bufftabby_ I hope we are on the same team. Girls rule. Cookies: join us in revolt and comradship (that’s not a word is it?)

I hope so too!!  
Remember our first game on Idlemafia?  
It was Super Mario and you were Scum and I thought you were really mean. And after the game I just loved the way you played your cards 😍  
So many memories - good ones.  
If you are scum in this game and I am not - I am certain I’ll love your play when I get to read the spoilers 😂

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/103 "2016-12-02T05:54:17Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> My memory is a bit rusty after all this time…but I believe we used to call that “snuggling”…

We are in the sign-up. This is the time to enjoy all the snuggling!!!  
Come join 🙂

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/104 "2016-12-02T05:57:49Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I wholly endorse **Total Lost** ’s proposal.  
> On a completely unrelated topic,  
> **Vote Total Lost  
> Vote Bufftabby  
> Vote Sinjin  
> Vote Cookies  
> Vote Squid  
> Vote NAF  
> Vote MHaye**

Brilliant play 😉  
Because that’s the way to get a girls attention. Vote her and she will be all over you until you unvote.  
So many miss the flirtatious side of mafia - such luck you didn’t 😉

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/105 "2016-12-02T11:50:18Z")

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Updated but still completely unofficial roster.

1. Idle Thoughts
2. Mahaloth
3. NAF1138
4. Suburban Plankton
5. Colby11
6. Boozahol Squid, P.I.
7. Guiri En Espana
8. storyteller0910
9. Hoopy Frood
10. Johnny Bravo
11. Hawkeyeop
12. Nanook of the North Shore
13. AngeloftheNorth
14. Prof. Pepperwinkle
15. snfaulkner
16. Daphne Black
17. paulwhoisaghost
18. bufftabby
19. Sunny Daze
20. sinjin
21. Dante G
22. jsgoddess
23. brewha
24. Chronos
25. Hockey Monkey
26. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
27. septimus
28. Biotop
29. Enderw24
30. Khameleon
31. MHaye
32. BlasterMaster
33. Zeriel
34. Pleonast
35. SisterCoyote
36. DiggitCamara
37. TexCat
38. Total Lost
39. Lakai

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/106 "2016-12-02T12:33:25Z")

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Only need one more to really make it a game.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/107 "2016-12-02T12:38:42Z")

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Oh, and for what it’s worth… I love **Pleonast** ’s Mafia games, with all of the crazy mechanics he comes up with… but Conspiracy isn’t Mafia. The fundamental mechanic of Mafia is a Town with greater numbers and who would have all the power, if they had the knowledge, versus a Scum team with knowledge but without numbers who thus has to work secretly. Four major factions throws that out the window.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/108 "2016-12-02T12:43:19Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Oh, and for what it’s worth… I love **Pleonast** ’s Mafia games, with all of the crazy mechanics he comes up with… but Conspiracy isn’t Mafia. The fundamental mechanic of Mafia is a Town with greater numbers and who would have all the power, if they had the knowledge, versus a Scum team with knowledge but without numbers who thus has to work secretly. Four major factions throws that out the window.

Ok thanks for speaking up. I felt like the only one who felt that way. I think conspiracy is great, Pleo should figure out how to market it, but like Malazan it’s not Mafia anymore. It’s very different from a play perspective. For a reunion game I would prefer something a little more classic.

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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/109 "2016-12-02T13:27:40Z")

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> [@Total\_Lost](#):
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> Hugs and kisses right back (and yes, the bear is so cute 😉)  
> It has been too long. I hope you still enjoy your coffee with love from me 💏

Of course! And I hope you still drink your espresso the same way! 😼

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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/110 "2016-12-02T13:32:19Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
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> _waves to total ulla and bufftabby_ I hope we are on the same team. Girls rule. Cookies: join us in revolt and comradship (that’s not a word is it?)

Come to the girls’ side, we have Cookies! 😸

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/111 "2016-12-02T13:38:33Z")

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So as far as I can see, we have now crested thirty six sign ups. I am DEFINITELY willing to host… but I think I’d need a co-host. This is going to be a lot of stuff to keep track of.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/112 "2016-12-02T13:48:19Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> So as far as I can see, we have now crested thirty six sign ups. I am DEFINITELY willing to host… but I think I’d need a co-host. This is going to be a lot of stuff to keep track of.

I’d be willing to co-host if you run it. Let me know if you can’t find anyone else.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/113 "2016-12-02T13:56:59Z")

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> [@Blaster\_Master](#):
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> That said, I think my favorite game I ever played in had to be the “Gastard” Batman game; what utter, glorious chaos that was. I’m still surprised that I was able to step in and fill in for someone who just flat out claimed to be scum and I managed to weasel my way through several more days and even convince the town to lynch someone they were pretty convinced wasn’t scum over confirmed scum and take out the detective. Hell, IIRC, I think Storyteller (who was the detective) even figured out what I was doing and couldn’t convince the town to lynch me. I even reread that game at some point later and couldn’t figure out how that happened.

I’ll 2nd Batman. I don’t remember what role I had, but I remember what role I pretended to be!

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/114 "2016-12-02T13:57:02Z")

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40 feels auspicious enough.

/in

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/115 "2016-12-02T14:14:55Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
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> I’d be willing to co-host if you run it. Let me know if you can’t find anyone else.

I’d do it too. I. Honestly worried about my ability to play in a game that big

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/116 "2016-12-02T14:15:57Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> 40 feels auspicious enough.
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> /in

Woot

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/117 "2016-12-02T15:06:56Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Oh, and for what it’s worth… I love **Pleonast** ’s Mafia games, with all of the crazy mechanics he comes up with… but Conspiracy isn’t Mafia. The fundamental mechanic of Mafia is a Town with greater numbers and who would have all the power, if they had the knowledge, versus a Scum team with knowledge but without numbers who thus has to work secretly. Four major factions throws that out the window.

Eh, it’s simply a formalization of third parties. How often do Mafia games not have a serial killer or some other subset with differing win conditions? The Conspiracy rules set lets everyone know what those roles and win conditions are from the beginning. (An open rules set, except for a few secret powers, is one of the design goals.)

And the fundamental mechanic is still there: a large number of Town vs a smaller number of Scum. Lack of information is the main mechanic preventing Town from winning. A subfaction of Town has the same goals as the rest, except they also need to eliminate a few particular Townie players. And a few serial killers pick off whoever they can for their chance to win.

I think the different play has more to do with the facts that it’s a (mostly) open rules set and that everyone has a power. _Has anyone besides me run games with both those?_

Anyhow, I’ll flesh out the details for another Conspiracy. It’s okay if we don’t play it as the reunion game (I’ll happily play in a **storyteller0910** game); I can run it later.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/118 "2016-12-02T15:35:21Z")

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Does anyone have experience with a game this big? I wonder if four-faction Conspiracy might be just the way to cope with this many players.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/119 "2016-12-02T15:41:03Z")

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The Cult of Sekham (Blaster Master’s game) had something like 35 players. I’ve been involved in one other here with that sort of number, and a large % of players had powers. I remember that as I wound up building the power interaction table, grouping powers by effect and then ordering the groups. (Redirection powers applied first and protections before kills are the ones I definitely recall.)

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/old-school-mafia-reunion-newer-players-welcome-too/773487/120 "2016-12-02T15:54:46Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Does anyone have experience with a game this big? I wonder if four-faction Conspiracy might be just the way to cope with this many players.

Honestly, I don’t see any problem with this many players from a game design standpoint unless you want to build a crazy complicated game.

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