# Older celebrities becoming self-caricatures

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 6, 2010, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230 "2010-10-06T10:23:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/21 "2010-10-06T19:42:48Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> \*\*Al Pacino \*\*since _Scent of a Woman_.
> 
> HOO-AH!!!

Oh, hells yes. And though I’m loathe to say it because I love him, Mr. Eastwood was a caricature if himself in “Gran Torino” and “Million Dollar Baby”.

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**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/22 "2010-10-06T20:54:15Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> [Cher](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.celebritysmackblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/FP_5717642_RIJ_VMA2010_PRESS_ROOM_091210.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.celebritysmackblog.com/2010/09/13/cher-vma-outfit-photos/&usg=__1n5fih9N17Q2jyohi89LZVoa2sM=&h=700&w=466&sz=54&hl=en&start=2&sig2=afAozlgxRVK0j7fsotFiNQ&zoom=1&itbs=1&tbnid=cUOtqNICP-swAM:&tbnh=140&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcher%2Bvma%26hl%3Den%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26biw%3D1004%26bih%3D1051%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=95SsTJnLB4H_8Abog42PBw).
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> She’s 64.
> 
> I win the thread.
> 
> (Sorry, Amber, but I gave the picture.)

Dear God,

Can you please let me look like Cher when I’m 64? Let’s totally ignore that I don’t look half as good at half her age. I promise to use my powers for only for good.

Thanks,

malkavia

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/23 "2010-10-06T20:59:56Z")

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> [@malkavia](#):
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> > [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> > [Cher](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.celebritysmackblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/FP_5717642_RIJ_VMA2010_PRESS_ROOM_091210.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.celebritysmackblog.com/2010/09/13/cher-vma-outfit-photos/&usg=__1n5fih9N17Q2jyohi89LZVoa2sM=&h=700&w=466&sz=54&hl=en&start=2&sig2=afAozlgxRVK0j7fsotFiNQ&zoom=1&itbs=1&tbnid=cUOtqNICP-swAM:&tbnh=140&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcher%2Bvma%26hl%3Den%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26biw%3D1004%26bih%3D1051%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=95SsTJnLB4H_8Abog42PBw).
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> > She’s 64.
> > 
> > I win the thread.
> > 
> > (Sorry, Amber, but I gave the picture.)
> 
> Dear God,
> 
> Can you please let me look like Cher when I’m 64? Let’s totally ignore that I don’t look half as good at half her age. I promise to use my powers for only for good.

\<Sexist Generality\>I think women look at other women like that, and think how good they look - not too saggy, no visible wrinkles, etc. For hetero men, on the other hand, older women who look like that fall in the uncanny valley, and are much creepier than pleasant looking ladies who \*look \*64.\</Sexist Generality\>

Cher’s creepy looking.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/24 "2010-10-06T21:04:44Z")

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Hugh Hefner.

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**Author:** ![Apocalypso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Apocalypso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apocalypso)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/25 "2010-10-08T00:01:16Z")

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> [@Amber\_in\_Treasury](#):
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> > [@panache45](#):
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> > (I was going to include Michael Jackson, but he was just . . . wrong . . . even as a caricature.)
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> And he didn’t even get that old.  
> \*\*  
> I’ll nominate Gene Simmons (KISS) and Cher. Gene even moreso than Cher. It’s not the excessive cosmetic surgery alone, but also their respective attitudes towards it.\*\*

cite for Gene having “excessive cosmetic surgery”? Moreso than the average aging actor/musician would have? I’d have thought that he’d have made himself better looking if that was the case. That is one ugly dude.

I’m going to go ahead and nominate Paul Stanley from Kiss. Has anyone seen pictures of him lately? The man is looking alarmingly like a cross between Snape from the Harry Potter movies and Michael Jackson these days.

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**Author:** ![JuliaSqueezer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/82dd89/32.png) [@JuliaSqueezer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JuliaSqueezer)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/26 "2010-10-08T14:52:09Z")

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Am I the only one who saw Linda Evans on Oprah? Gah! Such a pretty woman in her day. Now with all the plastic surgery and lip filler, she looks like the “Madam” puppet.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/27 "2010-10-08T14:56:25Z")

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> [@MostlyClueless](#):
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> Jack Nicholson.
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> /thread

Yes and no. Nicholson kept on doing the same schtick for a long time, even after it ceased being cool.

On the other hand, he’s made some very good movies in recent memory in which he WASN’T just doing his standard Crazy Jack routine, in which he played remarkably ordinary men in their Sixties.

Nicholson was very effective in “The Pledge” and “About Schmidt” precisely because he showed a willingness to play old, uncool men who were NOTHING like Randle P. McMurphy or the Joker.

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**Author:** ![Short\_Guy\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9adbd/32.png) [@Short\_Guy\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Short_Guy_1)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/28 "2010-10-09T12:14:41Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> > [@MostlyClueless](#):
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> > Jack Nicholson.
> > 
> > /thread
> 
> Yes and no. Nicholson kept on doing the same schtick for a long time, even after it ceased being cool.
> 
> On the other hand, he’s made some very good movies in recent memory in which he WASN’T just doing his standard Crazy Jack routine, in which he played remarkably ordinary men in their Sixties.
> 
> Nicholson was very effective in “The Pledge” and “About Schmidt” precisely because he showed a willingness to play old, uncool men who were NOTHING like Randle P. McMurphy or the Joker.

And even when he is in Crazy Jack mode, there are still moments where it really, really works, like in _The Departed._

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/29 "2010-10-09T16:15:25Z")

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> [@malkavia](#):
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> Dear God,
> 
> Can you please let me look like Cher when I’m 64? Let’s totally ignore that I don’t look half as good at half her age. I promise to use my powers for only for good.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> malkavia

I’m a few months older than Cher, and I \*\*\*never \*\*\*looked that good. On the other hand, I have not spent one cent on cosmetic surgery (and yes, it shows).

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**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/30 "2010-10-09T16:57:49Z")

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Ted Neeley, still playing Jesus in _Jesus Christ, Superstar_ 41 years later. Still looks damn good for pushing 70, but come on.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/31 "2010-10-09T18:18:09Z")

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[This is aging gracefully (Jamie Lee Curtis)](http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jame-lee-curtis.jpg) - she has wrinkles and grey hair, and she looks fantastic.

[This in not (Barry Manilow)](http://hitdawall.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/barry-manilow-25.jpg) - he looks like he wants to eat babies.

[This is definitely not (Joan Van Ark)](http://www.imnotobsessed.com/files/legacy/2007/12/makeupjoan1.jpg) - bad, bad plastic surgery.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/32 "2010-10-09T19:49:54Z")

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Adam West and William Shatner don’t really _look_ like charactatures of themselves, which is what the OP asked for, they just play charactatures of their own personalities.

I heard Shatner being interviewed a few years ago, and he’s definitely conscious of the fact that a good chunk of his career has been playing a weird, exaggerated version of himself. I’d be pretty certain the same is true for Adam West.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/33 "2010-10-09T23:40:06Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Adam West and William Shatner don’t really _look_ like charactatures of themselves, which is what the OP asked for, they just play charactatures of their own personalities.
> 
> I heard Shatner being interviewed a few years ago, and he’s definitely conscious of the fact that a good chunk of his career has been playing a weird, exaggerated version of himself. I’d be pretty certain the same is true for Adam West.

If only Adam West had played Captain Kirk, with Shatner as Batman…

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/older-celebrities-becoming-self-caricatures/556230/34 "2010-10-09T23:47:14Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> And then there’s [Carol Channing](http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/story/channing-awards-and-clothing-stolen).

Actually, I think Carol looks pretty good in those pictures - she’s toned down her hairstyle (which used to look sort of like a white Sideshow Bob), and looks her age. The lipstick is a bit much, true, but I think we can allow her a trademark or two.

Nicholson’s Mad Jack shtick has gotten very old, but he certainly can act when someone takes the time to make him do it. He was excellent as Jimmy Hoffa.

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