# Oldest available thread?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [April 19, 2002, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450 "2002-04-19T02:25:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_The\_Diver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Buck\_The\_Diver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_The_Diver)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2002, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450/1 "2002-04-19T02:25:51Z")

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In the last few days, I’ve seen threads dragged up from YEARS ago. I have no desire to bring these back to the forefront, but I does make me curious…

What is the oldest thread I can view here? Can I access the first thread ever posted? I don’t want to bog down the board with a huge search parameter, so I’m asking our mods/admins.

Oh, yeah. I promise I won’t post to the response. 😃

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2002, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450/2 "2002-04-19T02:54:16Z")

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As far as I know, it’s [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2)

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**Author:** ![Yo\_La\_Tengo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yo\_La\_Tengo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yo_La_Tengo)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2002, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450/3 "2002-04-19T19:25:26Z")

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I’m curious as to why **Tuba** and **Cecil** are guests and that they have “not yet registered.”

What gives?

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2002, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450/4 "2002-04-19T19:43:47Z")

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That’s what happens to all posts in threads that date to before the great UBB to vBulletin conversion. The SDMB, at one time, used UBB software.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_The\_Diver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Buck\_The\_Diver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_The_Diver)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2002, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450/5 "2002-04-20T04:48:52Z")

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Thanks, **bib**. Only 29 minutes to your response. That was fast work!

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**Author:** ![rsa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rsa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsa)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2002, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450/6 "2002-04-20T13:21:36Z")

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No, wait! Out of curiousity I looked at this thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1)

Now, it’s true that the post date is much later than the thread that **bibliophage** posted. But it looks like maybe the dates got updated during the vBulletin conversion.

I present as evidence:

> [@](#):
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> Actually, maybe this thread, since it’s the first one, could just stay open, and rise to the surface every year or so, to make people 🙂

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> Not a chance. I bet Arnold’s going to move or close it as soon as he realizes yet another refugee from pre-vB time is back with us.

And from Arnold…

> [@](#):
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> I thought I had closed this thread before, and closed it after the switch to vBulletin. Anyway, beatle is right in guessing that it’s getting closed again.
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> Say goodnight Gracie.

Whadda think?

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2002, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450/7 "2002-04-20T14:57:58Z")

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After the conversion to UBB the thread ids were “rearranged”. So the person who “bumped” thread 1 mistakenly thought it was the very first thread at the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450/8 "2013-02-12T16:40:32Z")

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Only on the Straight Dope does 1 not come before 2.

We set our own rules !!!

😃

ETA: Didn’t mean to Zombie an 11 year dead thread. But hey !

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450/9 "2013-02-12T17:31:11Z")

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Clearly, it’s [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=-1](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0)

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oldest-available-thread/104450/10 "2013-02-12T17:46:36Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> ETA: Didn’t mean to Zombie an 11 year dead thread. But hey !

Fascinating that the first thread, the one given by bibliophage, was itself zombied. Several times.
