From Exodus: Moses runs away to Midian (to prevent being called to account for killing an Egyptian slave overseer). At the time he comes back, he’s supposedly eighty.
Add in: whatever amount of time to sic ten plagues on Pharaoh and get the Israelites away to the desert. Lets say around a year (handwaving).
Forty years wandering around in the desert. Dies just before Joshua leads the next generation into Israel.
Oh, and the story of Enoch (Genesis) specifies that he never died - he was taken up to heaven bodily. So he’s got 'em all beat at somewhere over five thousand years (and counting). Beat that!
Um, wouldn’t I miss all the good stuff about Moses if I start with John? Or do you recommend I work backwards from where the Roman soldiers fix Christ’s wound with a spear and pull him off of the cross, and end up at the part where the Big Guy performs the Uncreation?
Literalism is meant for furniture assembly instructions and technical manuals, you know. Mythology is supposed to convey general truths, not accurate data.
Really? Did the Board of Certified Mythologists get together and write that prominently in their charter or something? Myths are the end-product of primitive attempts, often loopy or self-destructive, to make sense of a complicated universe, which attempts are still retained in a society long after it has figured out far better explanations for events the myths address.
Well now, there’s a more interesting shift to this thread!
I submit the following:
[ul][li]prr’s point is entirely correct, and[*]my assertion is entirely consistent with that observation[/ul][/li]
Talk amongst yourselves…
According to the bible, he lived to 969. Just how well-versed are you in the document you claim as, heh, gospel? Have you actually read any actual parts of it, or just repeating half-remembered summaries given to you by others?
In any case, Methuselah’s death is biblically documented (Genesis 5:27) so he wouldn’t in any case be the contender for oldest living human.
Is it true, as I vaguely seem to recall, that if you work out all the years in Genesis, Methuselah died in the same year as the Great Flood? If so, it’s the kind of thing that makes you go “hmmm”.
An account by L. Sprague de Camp confirms a living Neandertal man, over 50,000 years old. I wonder if he knew Moses?
If only there were some way to look into the past and make sure. You could probably do that at Hogwarts, a magical school for wizards that is confirmed to exist in Britain.
To quote that famed Scriptural scholar Ira Gershwin:
I would be very interested in a serious discussion of the place of myth and legend in the Bibile, as brought up by Xenophon, and as opposed to (a) assuming the thing is intended to be reportage on the level of All the President’s Men and then (b) casting aspersions on it and Christians generally.
The bible indicates that Elijah and Enoch never died. Enoch was the great-great-great-great grandson of Adam, the father of Methuselah and great-grandfather of Noah. Elijah came along many years later so I do believe that would make Enoch the oldest living man at somewhere in the neighborhood of 5500ish.
Nothing funnier than a condescending religious type who doesn’t know his or her religion very well. Meet them all the time. It’s been a good 13 years since I’ve read the Mosaic books and I [more than faintly] remember him being 120-something years old. Why don’t you spend more time studying your faith and less time bludgeoning people with it, copperwindow? I humbly suggest it might be what Jesus would prefer. For the bible tells me so.