# Oliver's Army being retired from Costello's setlist **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 11, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/olivers-army-being-retired-from-costellos-setlist/957604 "2022-01-11T20:41:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 34
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/olivers-army-being-retired-from-costellos-setlist/957604/34 "2022-01-13T12:28:11Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I’m hoping to keep this a Cafe Society thread, and not IMHO or the Pit if possible. I thought my reply was fine for the Cafe. Especially given that this is a thread where “_irrationally_ offended” drew no such OP sanction… > [@RitterSport](#): > > If it’s not too painful or offensive to describe, I have no idea what these mean. It’s not painful or offensive: “Kaffir” is the South African equivalent of “nigger” - worse, even, it’s never been reclaimed like “nigger” has, for instance. Absolutely the worst thing you can call a Black person (it [could land you jail time](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-43567468) for using it, here). But “kaffir lime” is the legit name of a fruit. Suffice to say, it’s not called that in South Africa, or [by anyone who cares what Black South Africans think](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/common-lime-name-has-racist-history-1.2698863). Hottentot’s a slur for Khoe-khoen and, by extension, all Coloured South Africans even if they aren’t Khoe-khoen. Someone registered with the name Venus Hottentot (a play on words relating to a [historic exploited Khoe-khoen person](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Baartman)). [I objected](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-are-racial-slurs-in-usernames-ok-now/397798). --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/olivers-army-being-retired-from-costellos-setlist/957604)._