# OMFG, I didn't recognize Judy.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 17, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550 "2010-06-17T14:46:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/1 "2010-06-17T14:46:47Z")

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I’m so ashamed. As a gay man, I think I have to turn in my toaster.

I just watched “Judgment at Nuremberg” for the first time (great film), and I didn’t recognize Judy Garland in her first scene, not until she appeared in the courtroom. And then I recognized her voice before her face. Yes, she was quite overweight and speaking with a German accent . . . but still . . . . :smack::smack::smack:

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/2 "2010-06-17T14:50:31Z")

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Wait… toasters are gay?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/3 "2010-06-17T14:51:10Z")

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Slight hijack, but - as a straight man, am I allowed to own a toaster as well? I mean, I need it for pop-tarts!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/4 "2010-06-17T14:52:35Z")

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> [@TWDuke](#):
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> Wait… toasters are gay?

Personally, I’m beginning to suspect that **panache45** is just trying to scam his way into scoring free toasters from insecure heterodopers. Not gonna work, dude - but good try!

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/5 "2010-06-17T17:52:00Z")

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What’d you think of her performance?

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/6 "2010-06-17T21:49:34Z")

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What’s this about toasters?

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/7 "2010-06-17T22:09:24Z")

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Holy crap, we watched _Judgment at Nuremburg_ last night! We were expecting Judy Garland (saw her in the credits) and William Shatner (same thing, and SNERK) but we missed Spencer Tracy. Drove me batty for half the movie until I looked it up on my phone.

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/8 "2010-06-17T22:14:37Z")

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Yup, sorry, gotta start goin’ for the girlie bits now. Penis (other than your own) is herefore DENIED!

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/9 "2010-06-17T23:00:01Z")

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> [@TWDuke](#):
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> Wait… toasters are gay?

> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> What’s this about toasters?

There was a thread on this a few years ago…New recruits to team gay get free toasters.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/10 "2010-06-17T23:07:36Z")

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I thought it was toaster ovens.\*

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/11 "2010-06-17T23:11:06Z")

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_Recruiters_ to Team Gay get toaster _ovens_.

**descamisado** is correct; it’s from the [Puppy Episode](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puppy_Episode).

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/12 "2010-06-18T00:00:09Z")

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I guess I could see this, at it was a very different role for Garland, but I recognized her right off and I’m not the most observant, still I can see it happening.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/13 "2010-06-18T00:07:32Z")

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She’s amazing in the role, though.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/14 "2010-06-18T00:12:33Z")

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Did you recognize Marlene Dietrich?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/15 "2010-06-18T00:16:36Z")

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The role was such a total departure for her, and she played it perfectly; that’s why I didn’t recognize her. As far as I know, it’s the only performance in her career in which she wasn’t “playing Judy Garland.” She actually succeeded in becoming someone else. And it was amazing to watch her intensity and defiance build on the witness stand.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/16 "2010-06-18T00:17:44Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> Did you recognize Marlene Dietrich?

Yes. I’m not totally deaf and blind (yet).

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/17 "2010-06-18T00:22:25Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Yes. I’m not totally deaf and blind (yet).

How about Captain Kirk?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/18 "2010-06-18T00:27:15Z")

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I recognized everyone right away except Judy. And isn’t it amazing how Burt Lancaster just totally “owned” the movie, in spite of having little to say other than the one speech. If I had been in that courtroom I wouldn’t have been able to take my eyes off him.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/19 "2010-06-18T00:37:02Z")

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I was impressed at the pacing - a 3 hour courtroom drama has a lot of work to do not to drag in the middle. I wouldn’t have made it any shorter.

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**Author:** ![limegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/82dd89/32.png) [@limegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/limegreen)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omfg-i-didnt-recognize-judy/543550/20 "2010-06-18T14:15:13Z")

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I showed this movie in my high school German class, and they were amazed that “Dorothy” had aged to that extent. They recognized Shatner as the “Price Line Negotiater” and not Kirk. Sad.

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