# OMG a Black Moron!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 16, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929 "2011-08-16T18:30:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/41 "2011-08-16T21:38:25Z")

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> Here’s his latest:He argues that municipalities could do what the EPA does and do it much better.

Can you cite where he said that municipalities can do the job _better_? He may have, I just didn’t see it. Can you point it out?

> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> I didn’t want to quote him because he has a typo, and I didn’t want to seem like I was patronizing him in quoting his main (moronic) point with a [sic], besides.

The pitting is lame. This excuse is even lamer.

[QUOTE=pseudotriton ruber ruber]  
Why don’t you get to know him to know him a little better before you jump to his defense?  
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Why shouldn’t he evaluate him on the example you gave? If it was so stupid or ridiculous, that would be enough, wouldn’t it. Seems like you had a weak point and now that you’ve been called on it you want protection from the general left-leaningness of the board. The old, “but he’s one of the bad guys”. Whaaah.

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> This Pitting is weak? Maybe, so why don’t you keep out of it? Because you’re a mealy-mouthed jerk who needs to defend morons making indefensible statements in favor of a smaller government? Maybe so.

Actually, as has been pointed out, his statement is not indefensible. For instance, San Francisco has some laws in place that protect the environment as well as, if not better than, the federal government. Recycling for instance.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/42 "2011-08-16T21:58:01Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> I’m sure you could have done better on the insult.

That, I doubt. You’ve been here about eight months - it probably took him seven and a half to come up with it.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/43 "2011-08-16T22:01:12Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> I am. I’m pointing out that you’re going to a great deal of trouble to point out very small issues with the OP, and to deflect from the moronic content of the post under discussion.

The fact that you’re pitting someone for a position that they’ve never actually taken is a bit more than a “very small” issue. It’s more along the lines of “gaping flaw that entirely destroys your position.”

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> It’s weak, I admit, and you’ve made that point several times now. We understand that you don’t care for the Pitting. Now will you kindly do me the courtesy of shutting your fucking pie hole?

If you don’t like people pointing out how much you suck, the best solution is to stop sucking so much. Throwing a tantrum doesn’t make you look any better.

Also:

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> Fuck off, like a good fellow, would you, please?

[Moderating]  
Telling other posters to fuck off is a violation of [the Pit’s language rules.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858) Please avoid using these terms in the future.

No warning issued.  
[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/44 "2011-08-17T00:01:12Z")

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Oh, prr, I’m disappointed. ☹

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/45 "2011-08-17T01:02:01Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> If you don’t like people pointing out how much you suck, the best solution is to stop sucking so much.

If I used a sig, I’d want this.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/46 "2011-08-17T01:23:57Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> As if the crime rate is some quota where we’re trying to get the optimum percentage from society or that crime rates and the criminals who are locked up for those crimes aren’t connected in any way.

Well, the fact is that there is an “optimum” crime rate, in the sense that trying to push it below that level costs too much in money, civil liberties, etc to be worthwhile.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/47 "2011-08-17T03:05:06Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> If I used a sig, I’d want this.

Miller’s line reminds me of an episode of Office. Michael tells Dwight. “Don’t be an idiot”. Cut to Dwight talking to the camera. He says (something along the lines of), “I appreciate Michael’s advice. And when he tells me that I think, ‘What would an idiot do?’, then I don’t do that thing.”

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/48 "2011-08-17T03:10:43Z")

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Honest to god, couldn’t we just have pitted him for his user name alone? I can’t ever get past it, because it leaves the impression that he’s a conservative because it’s contrary and shocking, not out of any real conviction. This isn’t political: if someone’s user name were “OMG . . . a pagan!” or “OMG. . . a cancer survivor” or “OMG . . . a home-schooled red-headed midget!” I’d have the same reaction. It’s adolescent and distracting.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/49 "2011-08-17T03:12:11Z")

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I think it’s funny.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/50 "2011-08-17T03:22:05Z")

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Sure. But the ‘Moron’ is an improvement.

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/51 "2011-08-17T06:01:02Z")

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Like, OMG everyone seems to be over this thread…

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/52 "2011-08-17T07:04:26Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> Honest to god, couldn’t we just have pitted him for his user name alone? I can’t ever get past it, because it leaves the impression that he’s a conservative because it’s contrary and shocking, not out of any real conviction. This isn’t political: if someone’s user name were “OMG . . . a pagan!” or “OMG. . . a cancer survivor” or “OMG . . . a home-schooled red-headed midget!” I’d have the same reaction. It’s adolescent and distracting.

You should try being Black. You wouldn’t think it was so distracting then.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/53 "2011-08-17T12:54:31Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> No it doesn’t. I haven’t read the other thread and perhaps my response would be better placed in there, but no. Never in my life have I heard anyone advocate that the reason we should release people from prison is because the crime rate is low. I’ve heard arguments about a lack of funding to prisons or an overcrowding of prisons or that laws that have been broken shouldn’t have been illegal in the first place. But not that. As if the crime rate is some quota where we’re trying to get the optimum percentage from society or that crime rates and the criminals who are locked up for those crimes aren’t connected in any way.

I wasn’t praising the literal truth of **Little Nemo** ’s claim, but simply the illustration of the line of thought apparently involved.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/54 "2011-08-17T18:07:37Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> Putting you on my ignore list is much easier. If you think I waste time thinking about you, you’re wrong. I do chuckle to myself every time I see a post of yours that is hidden, and I am grateful that the powers that be provide such a feature on this board.

Color me confused. You directly quoted a post of his that wasn’t quoted by anyone but you, so you couldn’t have seen it as a second hand quote from someone you don’t have on ignore. So clearly you either don’t have him on ignore, or you do have him on ignore but can’t stop yourself from using the ‘read this one post by the poster on your ignore list feature.’ Which would kind of indicate you in fact do waste time thinking about him, more than you would waste by not bothering to put him on ignore in the first place.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/55 "2011-08-18T00:19:00Z")

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“But, Lady Foxfyre. you couldn’t have arrived on the 3:17 train from Bollocks because, due to a mishap at the Cockupshire station, the Bollocks Limited did not arrive until 3:47!..”

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/56 "2011-08-18T00:32:48Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> Honest to god, couldn’t we just have pitted him for his user name alone? I can’t ever get past it, because it leaves the impression that he’s a conservative because it’s contrary and shocking, not out of any real conviction. This isn’t political: if someone’s user name were “OMG . . . a pagan!” or “OMG. . . a cancer survivor” or “OMG . . . a home-schooled red-headed midget!” I’d have the same reaction. It’s adolescent and distracting.

His user name is significant because of the stereotype that conservatism is anti-black. He knows better, and thus has obviously chosen to debunk that stereotype and proclaim his credentials as a free-thinker by chosing the user name he did. I say kudos to him.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/57 "2011-08-18T00:45:19Z")

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Christ, **Starving,** even your stereotypes are out of date.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/58 "2011-08-18T01:18:53Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Color me confused. You directly quoted a post of his that wasn’t quoted by anyone but you, so you couldn’t have seen it as a second hand quote from someone you don’t have on ignore. So clearly you either don’t have him on ignore, or you do have him on ignore but can’t stop yourself from using the ‘read this one post by the poster on your ignore list feature.’ Which would kind of indicate you in fact do waste time thinking about him, more than you would waste by not bothering to put him on ignore in the first place.

Jesus christ. Yes, I do have him on ignore. I read his posts in this thread because this thread is about him, and some of us can’t help but watch the train wreck every once in a while. It’s really not the national scandal you’re both making it out to be.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/59 "2011-08-18T01:30:10Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> His user name is significant because of the stereotype that conservatism is anti-black. He knows better, and thus has obviously chosen to debunk that stereotype and proclaim his credentials as a free-thinker by chosing the user name he did. I say kudos to him.

Then be “Black Conservative”. The “OMG” sounds childish, and suggests that he’s already decided everyone else is going to just being reeling in shock that such a person exists.

And the more interested someone is in emphasizing that they are free-thinking, the more skeptical I am about their actual free thinking tendencies.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-a-black-moron/592929/60 "2011-08-18T01:33:21Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> You should try being Black. You wouldn’t think it was so distracting then.

It’s less distracting without the random capitalization, I hear.

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