# OMG!!! Christian groups upset AGAIN! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 20, 2006, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899 "2006-12-20T06:47:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![MidnightRadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MidnightRadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidnightRadio)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/61 "2006-12-21T01:01:05Z")
[QUOTE=Tengu] I’m offended by this movie. Not because of the premise, but because it looks like a lousy remake which seriously misses the point of the 1974 version. From the trailers they seem to show the killer - IN THE TRAILER, to boot. And there looks to be supernatural elements. On the other hand, it has Michelle Trachtenberg, so if it’s a typical tits’n’gore slasher flick, I’ll probably watch it when it eventually comes on TV. On the other hand…is that the original house they used in it, or just a remarkable similar one. [/QUOTE] I don’t remember the 1974 original having a point, really. I mean, it had a bit more depth and suspense than your average slasher flick (but not _that_ much depth), maybe because the genre was in its infancy and hadn’t had a chance to become formulaic yet, but it was still just a slasher flick in the end. Not that I’m criticizing, mind you, I liked the movie a lot. And I was wondering the same thing about the house. The interiors may be laid out the same, but I think the outside of the house is different. I remember the house in the original being larger (though it’s been a long time since I saw it). ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/62 "2006-12-21T01:07:07Z")
> [@](#): > > **Baracus:** : Bah, so some little Christian group got their panties in a bunch over some movie most people won’t bother seeing. Who cares? The vast majority of Christians couldn’t give a tiny rat’s ass about this kind of crap. Unfortunately interviews of people shrugging their shoulders and saying “meh?” don’t make for good television or newsprint. That is so intelligent that I think you must have gotten kicked out of Cary. Good on you! (And welcome!) My husband and I like to watch **Bad Santa**. I don’t mind irreverence. What’s so reverent about all the materialism anyway? I still take time for things that I think have some relevance. Billy Bob Thornton doesn’t interfere with that anymore than than what I have for dinner. These are only a couple of Christian groups — not the whole of Christiandom. ---
**Author:** ![42Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/6bbea6/32.png) [@42Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42Geek)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/63 "2006-12-21T07:22:31Z")
> [@](#): > > Bible Camp Massacre No! EVEN better! Strict Baptist Bible College Massacre! Watch as those heathen women who _gasp_ wear PANTS turn into Indigo Girl listening FEMINISTS ! Witness men who listen to _gasp_ CCM (contemporary Christian Music) turn into SATAN Worshippers! Watch God smite the lips of those who say “Gee!” ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/64 "2006-12-21T07:32:44Z")
[QUOTE=MidnightRadio] I don’t remember the 1974 original having a point, really. I mean, it had a bit more depth and suspense than your average slasher flick (but not _that_ much depth) [/QUOTE] I didn’t mean ‘point’ as in ‘message’. It doesn’t really have one of those, and it’s all the better for it. The point it’s missed is what made the original a good horror movie. The original’s most striking, most memorable, and most creepy aspect was never showing ‘Billy’ - except, occasionally his hand in the POV shots - and it was an ‘evil that men do’ flick, not supernatural. If I’m reading the trailers of the new version right, they’ve changed BOTH these parts, rendering it just another derivative gore flick - but not derivative of the movie it takes its name from. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/65 "2006-12-21T07:44:12Z")
[QUOTE=42Geek] No! EVEN better! Strict Baptist Bible College Massacre! Watch as those heathen women who _gasp_ wear PANTS turn into Indigo Girl listening FEMINISTS ! Witness men who listen to _gasp_ CCM (contemporary Christian Music) turn into SATAN Worshippers! Watch God smite the lips of those who say “Gee!” [/QUOTE] Work in some penguins, might have something. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/66 "2006-12-21T08:01:25Z")
[QUOTE=42Geek] No! EVEN better! Strict Baptist Bible College Massacre! Watch as those heathen women who _gasp_ wear PANTS turn into Indigo Girl listening FEMINISTS ! Witness men who listen to _gasp_ CCM (contemporary Christian Music) turn into SATAN Worshippers! Watch God smite the lips of those who say “Gee!” [/QUOTE] Nah, it’s _gotta_ be _strict_ Pentacostal! That way, we can work in the whole snake handling aspect of it! Also, since strict Pentacostal women aren’t allowed to wear pants, you could call it _Snakes in a Skirt_. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/67 "2006-12-21T18:26:15Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] Little girls grow up, move on, and eventually get nekkid in movies. Sorry to have to break it to you. 😃 [/QUOTE] It’s a body double. Yup, that’s it. All CGI. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![42Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/6bbea6/32.png) [@42Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42Geek)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/68 "2006-12-22T05:16:21Z")
Nah…how about Snakes in PANTS? After all we all know that snakes are evil and so are pants! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Will\_Repair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a698b9/32.png) [@Will\_Repair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Will_Repair)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/69 "2006-12-22T19:23:19Z")
You better watch out. You better not pout. You better not cry. I’m telling you why, Jesus Christ is coming to town. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/70 "2006-12-22T19:33:06Z")
[QUOTE=Will Repair] You better watch out. You better not pout. You better not cry. I’m telling you why, Jesus Christ is coming to town. [/QUOTE] You mean: **You better watch out. You better not cry. You better not pout. I’m telling you why,** Sorry. That was really bugging me for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![ErinPuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@ErinPuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ErinPuff)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/71 "2006-12-22T19:37:05Z")
[QUOTE=ShibbOleth] I’m thinking a mostly gay porn remake of _Jesus Christ, Superstar_ might be more effective. [/QUOTE] [This one](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0275434/) comes pretty close. A friend of mine said about it, “[…]that production is the gayest thing I’ve ever seen that isn’t overtly about homosexuals. Actually, that’s the gayest thing I’ve ever seen, full-stop.” ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/72 "2006-12-22T19:49:45Z")
I still picturing Michael kissing Frodo in Havana and saying “I know it was you Frodo, you broke my heart!” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/73 "2006-12-22T20:04:33Z")
[QUOTE=ErinPuff] [This one](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0275434/) comes pretty close. A friend of mine said about it, “[…]that production is the gayest thing I’ve ever seen that isn’t overtly about homosexuals. Actually, that’s the gayest thing I’ve ever seen, full-stop.” [/QUOTE] Your friend has led a very sheltered life. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/74 "2006-12-22T21:40:19Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] I still picturing Michael kissing Frodo in Havana and saying “I know it was you Frodo, you broke my heart!” [/QUOTE] “If he tries anything, Sam will kill him!” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/75 "2006-12-23T17:20:50Z")
I have to say I wasn’t planning on seeing this movie untill the other day I watched a newly revised trailer in which the anouncer says: “Certain groups are upset over the release of this movie due to it’s graphic violence (Blah, bal blah )… Well WE say: You haven’t seen NOTHING yet!!” It was clearly a slam towards these fundie groups. It did my heart good to see that not ALL of Big Corp America will bow down to these fundie groups. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/76 "2006-12-23T17:29:33Z")
[QUOTE=stegon66] How does _Bible Camp Massacre_ sound? [/QUOTE] _Nudist Colony Of The Dead_. > [@](#): > > The story revolves around a group of nudists who are forced out of their nudist camp by a bunch of religious fanatics. This doesn’t set well with the nudists, so when they get back to their camp, they make a suicide pact and proceed to drink what seems to be poisoned punch or something like that. You know, pretty much the same way that Jim Jones did it many years ago. Anyway, the nudists dies, but not before vowing to come back for revenge. > > Fast forward years later, a group of teens are sent on a religious retreat to the same area where the nudist camp used to be. While there, these nudists come back to life to exact their revenge with a little song, a little dance, ripping limbs off everywhere. You know what I’m talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2006, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/77 "2006-12-23T19:42:00Z")
[QUOTE=Tengu] I didn’t mean ‘point’ as in ‘message’. It doesn’t really have one of those, and it’s all the better for it. The point it’s missed is what made the original a good horror movie. The original’s most striking, most memorable, and most creepy aspect was never showing ‘Billy’ - except, occasionally his hand in the POV shots - and it was an ‘evil that men do’ flick, not supernatural. If I’m reading the trailers of the new version right, they’ve changed BOTH these parts, rendering it just another derivative gore flick - but not derivative of the movie it takes its name from. [/QUOTE] I beg to differ about part of that. The original’s most striking, most memorable aspect (to me) was the presence of One Of The Most Beautiful Women To Ever Grace Our Planet, **Olivia Hussey** , looking only slightly less beautiful than she did as Juliet in Franco Zeffirelli’s [Romeo and Juliet](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0063518/). I don’t remember much about that movie, but I can close my eyes and picture her. [QUOTE=saoirse] I still maintain, as I have since I stood in line for 90 minutes to see the 2+ -hour POS “The Last Temptation of Christ,” [/QUOTE] **The Last Temptation of Christ** is, in my opinion, a great film. I think it’s one of Martin Scorsese’s best films. My opinion about a movie about jesus is probably worthless, since I’m an atheist, but I thought it was very powerful, and it certainly touched that part of me that used to believe, that used to regularly attend church and Sunday School and Vacation Bible School before I realized it was all a sham. It astonished me that Christians didn’t embrace the movie, and all over a few seconds of fantasy within the film. With those few seconds OUT, the movie would have been a mainstay of Christian Movies To Watch whenever Christians gather to watch jesus movies (something I had to endure many times). I am SO glad he didn’t cut those few seconds out for the idiots. Fuck narrowminded Christians. The “What if?” aspect of the movie was there to show Christ’s faith. What if he could have done things differently? What if he could have lived happily ever after with Mary M? He would not have chosen to do that, because his place was exactly where he ended up. He had free will, and he imagined what he could do with that free will, and still his choice was to die for the sins of others and be reborn as the blah blah blah whatever it was. It’s a pious movie and most Christians were too ignorant and sheepish to find out for themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2006, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/78 "2006-12-23T19:55:10Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] The original’s most striking, most memorable aspect (to me) was the presence of One Of The Most Beautiful Women To Ever Grace Our Planet, Olivia Hussey, looking only slightly less beautiful than she did as Juliet in Franco Zeffirelli’s Romeo and Juliet. I don’t remember much about that movie, but I can close my eyes and picture her. [/QUOTE] I meant, I don’t remember much about the original **Black Christmas** , but I remember her. **Romeo and Juliet** , on the other hand, is one of my favorite films and I remember everything about it. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2006, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/79 "2006-12-23T19:56:26Z")
I’ll agree that the protesters had mischaracterized the movie. It was perfectly in keeping with Christian theology, IMO. In fact, it was like the Bataan Death-Sunday-School Lesson. I wanted to see it mainly to see what the controversy was about, and I find out that there was nothing to protest. As I said, the fix was in. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899/80 "2006-12-23T20:00:06Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] Bataan Death-Sunday-School Lesson [/QUOTE] Funny! If I’m going to hell for laughing at that, you’re going with me for thinking of it. If I believed in hell, of course. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-christian-groups-upset-again/384899.md?page=5)