# OMG new smileys??! **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 26, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330 "2014-02-26T17:03:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![compositejoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/compositejoe/32/7232_2.png) [@compositejoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/compositejoe)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/181 "2014-03-02T23:54:34Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I’m okay with all except Rolleyes, really. > > I think rolleyes with the mouth of Mr. Cool would be great. Slightly less snarky and more amused, but not looking up a skirt. > > /\_\_\_\_ > /\_\_\_\_\_ > _|:rolleyes:|_ 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/182 "2014-03-03T00:00:17Z")
> [@compositejoe](#): > > 🆒 See? I can’t tell what that means! Is it, “Shut the fuck up, the grownups are talking”? Or is it, “Heh. I’m never going to be able to look at the Rolleyes smiley again without it imagining upskirt smirking.”? Or is it, “I like looking up skirts!”? That Mr. Cool is too ambiguous! (OK, maybe that’s one more I’d change if I could.) ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/183 "2014-03-03T00:15:22Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I personally would also throw in that they just don’t fit with the overall aesthetic theme of the site. Compare them with the icons used in the posting toolbar, for example. This site uses solid, bold, flat shapes in what few images it has. The new smileys seem to be going for a less bold and more three dimensional appearance. I agree with this. The old smilies fit very well with the stark, down-to-basics look and feel of this site. It’s one of the reasons I like it here. No silly avatars, no thousands of smilies to choose from… We had a handful of smilies, and except for the embarrassed guy, (blow job smilie), all worked very well. Especially the rolling eye smilie. This new one is terrible. Add me to the list of we want the old sarcastic eye smilie back! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/184 "2014-03-03T00:33:47Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > I think the ones we used to have are among those shown in [this thread at the vbulletin forums](http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?438244-JPnyc-or-Brad-please-reply-Can-we-get-our-good-old-Smilies-back) Your link was missing rolleyes, but I got him from this thread, so we’re good. The only problem I have now is that the new emoticons are 16 pixels wide, while the old ones were only 15. It wouldn’t matter, except, for some reason 🙂 in the editor is explicitly set to be 16x16 (although none of the rest are). Also, was winkie yellow? The one I have is, but it looks wrong to me. I almost saved a yellow biggrin, so I know the colors aren’t necessarily correct. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/185 "2014-03-03T05:47:44Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > I’d like to retain a curvy mouth, as the old rolleyes was a little harsh. It’s an emoticon, for heaven’s sake. There are members who found the old one not just “a little harsh” but “infuriating”! But as I responded to them, their problem is not the emoticon. > [@mbh](#): > > Add me to the list of those who prefer the old rolleyes. The new one looks more amused than sarcastic. Me too. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/186 "2014-03-03T06:21:58Z")
Wow, I never knew emoticons could raise such passion. I’ve never noticed most of the details mentioned here. A smiley face is a smiley face. I’ve never paid much attention to the shade of color or whether the eyes were twinkling. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/187 "2014-03-03T06:23:43Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > if anything the new pastel is closer to (Caucasian) flesh tones. So the new smileys are racist, too? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/188 "2014-03-03T07:38:33Z")
For fun, I went ahead and made “new” versions of the stragglers, along with one of the original rolleyes. Dubious isn’t quite as good as I’d like, but the other two came out pretty good. Note that they look kinda messed up unless you put them on a white (well, #f8f8f8 for you purists) background. That’s because vBulletin uses GIFs for some reason. [ul] [li][smack](http://i.imgbox.com/KrYDcw33.gif)[/li][li][dubious](http://i.imgbox.com/g1s1Srmz.gif)[/li][li][rolleyes](http://i.imgbox.com/7Y2mijTQ.gif)[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/189 "2014-03-03T09:28:12Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Wow, I never knew emoticons could raise such passion. They are an aspect of communication, which I find of interest. > [@](#): > > I’ve never noticed most of the details mentioned here. A smiley face is a smiley face. I’ve never paid much attention to the shade of color or whether the eyes were twinkling. Well you shouldn’t. I’m not a sommelier, so I don’t know why a particular wine tastes nice, nor can I describe its flavor. And some say that writing about music is like dancing to architecture. But surely the new rolleyes has a different feel than the old one, and after messing around with ~16x16 gifs for a couple of hours (including my stint oh about a decade ago) I can speculate why. The point being is that the icon can have an effect even on those not conversant with graphic artistry (like, for example, myself). More generally, yes, yes pastel is a little insipid. And the fuzziness isn’t much to look at. But I think the new set _mostly_ serves their function well. I hope to give rolly a makeover at some point, if only for my own curiosity. > [@BigT](#): > > The happy and silly ones are. The others not so much. I have never seen :dubious: used as a softener, for example. Nor the old rolleyes. Heck, I’d say both of those are actually used as intensifiers. > > Rolleyes is used here often to completely dismiss someone’s comment without saying a word. :rolleyes: \<– This guy just doesn’t have that in him. Dubious is used as a softener - it’s actually a softer version of the old rolleyes when you think about it. (Though it wasn’t intended that way when it was designed.) People throw in a smilie because, as I said earlier, unadorned sarcasm is harsh. That said, Oldy Rolly was also used a single icon putdown. And sometimes it was used as an intensifier on non-sarcastic language as well. It’s a little different from the other icons. 'Ol dubious is just more polite somehow, sort of like Mr. Spock. Fun fact: Mr. Dubious’s eyebrow is raised so high that it distorts the top of his skull a little. _That’s_ how dubious he is! > [@BigT](#): > > [dubious](http://i.imgbox.com/g1s1Srmz.gif) Pirate Dubious! ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/190 "2014-03-03T13:43:28Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > :rolleyes: > Add me to the list of those who prefer the old rolleyes. The new one looks more amused than sarcastic. Well, he used to be disgusted, but now he tries to be amused. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/191 "2014-03-03T18:00:16Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’m sure the entire site could be redesigned to fit the new smileys, I think this is really the only logical solution. Clearly the members of this board can not handle a change of smileys with the sites current design. So if the entire site is redesigned, maybe with images and avatars enabled and a whole new color pallette to fit with the new smileys, then maybe said members will acquiesce. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/192 "2014-03-03T18:21:02Z")
Here’s what I use on my site, FWIW. It’s not all the smilies, but just an example of some SDMB equivalents. You probably won’t like them. Smile: [http://i.imgur.com/hFnweNU.png](http://i.imgur.com/hFnweNU.png) Eek: [http://i.imgur.com/H4yTQzJ.gif](http://i.imgur.com/H4yTQzJ.gif) Freaked (eek variant): [http://i.imgur.com/Q9Tmy8r.png](http://i.imgur.com/Q9Tmy8r.png) Mad: [http://i.imgur.com/VuVel28.png](http://i.imgur.com/VuVel28.png) Rolleyes: [http://i.imgur.com/1uQdUty.png](http://i.imgur.com/1uQdUty.png) Cool: [http://i.imgur.com/RJ7JiTs.png](http://i.imgur.com/RJ7JiTs.png) Tongue: [http://i.imgur.com/NvzVHyo.gif](http://i.imgur.com/NvzVHyo.gif) Wink: [http://i.imgur.com/E2lt0pp.png](http://i.imgur.com/E2lt0pp.png) Grin: [http://i.imgur.com/HZkGrQT.png](http://i.imgur.com/HZkGrQT.png) Embarassed: [http://i.imgur.com/CuYqDre.gif](http://i.imgur.com/CuYqDre.gif) Dubious: [http://i.imgur.com/CA1OaR5.png](http://i.imgur.com/CA1OaR5.png) Frown: [http://i.imgur.com/MptBJdP.png](http://i.imgur.com/MptBJdP.png) I don’t have a “smack”, but there’s a couple of close equivalents, meant more for frustration than “d’oh!” Wall: [http://i.imgur.com/Wz6J3xw.png](http://i.imgur.com/Wz6J3xw.png) Facepalm: [http://i.imgur.com/KuFzF2X.png](http://i.imgur.com/KuFzF2X.png) EDIT: This is all of them - [http://i.imgur.com/8CiAp7s.png](http://i.imgur.com/8CiAp7s.png) . Some are inside jokes, ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/193 "2014-03-03T19:15:55Z")
Who is chet? And the Picard facepalm kinda looks like a penis. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/194 "2014-03-03T19:32:14Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > And the Picard facepalm kinda looks like a penis. So does Picard for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/195 "2014-03-03T19:38:10Z")
True, true. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/196 "2014-03-03T19:50:28Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Who is chet? It’s the smiley-sized version of an avatar used by a forum member that died a few years ago. The smiley is a memorial, of sorts. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/197 "2014-03-03T19:53:30Z")
Awww, that’s nice of you guys. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/198 "2014-03-03T22:47:17Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Pirate Dubious! Ha! I’ve always thought he looked a little like a pirate, but my edit sure made it worse! That’s what I get for making the eyes blurrier to better match the others. That eyebrow blends with the half closed eye to make a patch. I [tried again](http://i.imgbox.com/mk6tCnL4.gif), this time making sure to keep the eyebrow and right eye distinctly separate, cheating a bit of the blurriness. I actually like my new one enough that I tried to make it match the brighter color scheme, like I did with rolleyes. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/199 "2014-03-03T22:56:36Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Ha! I’ve always thought he looked a little like a pirate, but my edit sure made it worse! That’s what I get for making the eyes blurrier to better match the others. That eyebrow blends with the half closed eye to make a patch. > > I [tried again](http://i.imgbox.com/mk6tCnL4.gif), this time making sure to keep the eyebrow and right eye distinctly separate, cheating a bit of the blurriness. I actually like my new one enough that I tried to make it match the brighter color scheme, like I did with rolleyes. A good emoticon, but can we use them on the STMB? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omg-new-smileys/682330/200 "2014-03-03T23:39:46Z")
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