# OMGosh, FFOTUS just announced US to sponsor ethnic cleansing in Gaza

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 5, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898 "2025-02-05T01:17:37Z")\
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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> Netanyahu will kill eveybody living in Gaza.

Jesus. Netanyahu is not going to just murder 2mm people. WTF?

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He just needs to kill enough that the rest of them leave.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> Netanyahu will kill eveybody living in Gaza.

Bibi is a fascist but this is delusional beyond belief.

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**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/66 "2025-02-05T17:36:31Z")

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No one remembers this quote from Will Rogers in the 1920s.

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> “I’ve got a plan that’ll stop all wars. When you can’t agree with your neighbor you move away. Now that’s my plan. Move nations away from each other.
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> Take France and Germany. They can’t agree, so take France and trade places with Japan. Let Japan live there by Germany. If those two want to fight, let ’em fight. Who cares. We’d run excursions to a war like that.
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> We don’t always agree with Mexico. Well, trade Mexico off for Turkey, harems and all. Now we got men in this country that would get along great with Turkey.
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> And that would solve the Irish problem. Take England and move ’em away from Ireland. Take ’em over to Canada and let ’em live off their son-in-law. When you move England away from Ireland don’t you let Ireland know where you’re taking ’em, or they’ll follow ’em and get ’em.”

He was a comedian, but this isn’t funny today.

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/67 "2025-02-05T17:52:12Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Why aren’t the Democrats stopping this?

> **[A quote by Napoléon Bonaparte](https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1182-never-interrupt-your-enemy-when-he-is-making-a-mistake)**
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> Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> He was a comedian, but this isn’t funny today.

Let’s just say, as a geopolitical strategist; Will was a great rope wrangler.

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/69 "2025-02-05T19:14:28Z")

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And the gaslighting back pedaling begins,  
_Secretary Rubio on Gaza: “It was not meant as a hostile move. It was meant as a very generous move.”_

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nPrwREcHtm8/maxresdefault.jpg "Secretary Rubio on Gaza: "It was not meant as a hostile move. It was meant as a very generous move."") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPrwREcHtm8)

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> [@hajario](#):
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> > [@DocCathode](#):
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> > Netanyahu will kill eveybody living in Gaza.
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> Bibi is a fascist but this is delusional beyond belief.

I agree this is delusional but it is endorsed by right wing members of the Israeli government.

> Gideon Saar, Israel’s foreign minister, praised Trump for his “out of the box ideas” on Gaza, saying that the enclave “in its current form has no future.” Saar appeared to defend Trump’s contentious proposal that Palestinians leave Gaza en masse. “As long as people emigrate of their own free will — anywhere in the world — and there is a country willing to accept them, can anyone say that’s immoral or inhumane?” he said in Israel’s Parliament.

[From here.](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/02/05/world/israel-gaza-netanyahu-trump/ba63b4aa-b673-5da7-9753-bd661374f733?smid=url-share) There are others in Netanyahu’s government who are endorsing the idea of relocating Palestinians.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/71 "2025-02-05T21:04:06Z")

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> Secretary of State Marco Rubio and White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said he {Trump} only sought to move the roughly 1.8 million Gazans temporarily to allow for reconstruction.

Now you might think you remember this,

> Trump, who said Tuesday night, “If we can get a beautiful area to resettle people, permanently

but you’d be wrong.

> **[US officials now say Trump only wants to displace Palestinians from Gaza...](https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/marco-rubio-defends-dismantling-of-usaid-praises-trumps-proposal-for-us-c/)**
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> President Donald Trump’s top diplomat and his main spokesperson are walking back the idea that he wants the permanent relocation of Palestinians from Gaza, after American allies and even Republican lawmakers rebuffed his suggestion that the U.S. take...

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/72 "2025-02-05T21:06:53Z")

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I think what we’re seeing is that Trump is more mentally unfit than Joe Biden was on his worst day. And we’re only three weeks into his presidency.

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Same pattern as the first administration. Trump says something outrageous. Others come in to say what he really meant. It will be interesting to see when some start leaving because they can’t handle the craziness. A lot more true believers in the administration this time but some will not be able to deal with it.

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Jesus. Netanyahu is not going to just murder 2mm people. WTF?

Why wouldn’t he? He wouldn’t be the first nor the last leader to order a genocide. It’d be a way to make Trump happy, a lot of his own supporters happy, and to finally grab all that _lebensraum_ at once.

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/75 "2025-02-05T21:49:13Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> This is “Trail of Tears” level stuff.

Isn’t Andrew Jackson Trump’s second-favorite president? (Trump is his own favorite president.)

> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> I think it is a negotiating tactic. I hope anyway. Trump has already shown he starts negotiations by moving the bar.

Okay. Let’s say it is. What, _exactly_, is it he’s negotiating?

> [@DWMarch](#):
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> I think this could do real damage in Gaza and Israel though. The peace process was fragile to begin with.

Right. His stupid stunt with moving the US embassy to Jerusalem was the root cause for something in the neighborhood of 60 deaths. No telling how many people are going to die from this one.

Seriously. Have any of his announced policies or aspirations been anything other than something that is not (a) illegal, (b) cruel, and (c) likely fatal to marginalized people?

> [@bobsmom101](#):
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> pseudopod of an “idea”

A pseudopod of a concept of an idea.

> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> I agree this is delusional but it is endorsed by right wing members of the Israeli government.

And apparently some right wing members of our government.

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“We weren’t going to kill the Palestinians in Gaza; we just wanted to send them to live on a farm where they would run about in the fresh air and sunshine”

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And outside,  
_RWW News: Shane Vaughn Claims The United States Already Owns Gaza_

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WJ8yCVWxx2g/maxresdefault.jpg "RWW News: Shane Vaughn Claims The United States Already Owns Gaza") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ8yCVWxx2g)

_RWW News: Floyd Brown Says Trump Will Turn Gaza Into A Tax-Free Utopia_

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/DX4cMUxm9KY/maxresdefault.jpg "RWW News: Floyd Brown Says Trump Will Turn Gaza Into A Tax-Free Utopia") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX4cMUxm9KY)

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/78 "2025-02-05T21:56:32Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Do you really think Israel will go in for Nazi era extermination camps?
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> I think Israel would much more likely push the people out of Gaza and make them someone else’s problem.

Israel is in a perpetual existential survival mode. They’ll do whatever it takes to survive, and that’s become especially egregious under Netanyahu which led directly to the Gaza crisis.\*

As for “push[ing] the people out of Gaza”, mass deportations of Jews out of Germany and the occupied territories was the Nazis’ original plan. It was only after that didn’t work that the exterminations began. This is how genocides begin – one horrible, unthinkable idea that quickly becomes thinkable after all, and paves the way for normalizing an even more horrific one. This insidious escalation is the real menace of Trump.

\* ETA: That’s not meant as a criticism. If your very existence is under perpetual attack, then you’re naturally going to be in a perpetual survival mode. This includes apparent overreactions to real or perceived threats. Nor is it meant as a defense of Netanyahu. He’s a real war hawk who totally went nuts over the Hamas attack.

> [@DWMarch](#):
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> Such a great ally, that Trump. Real “out of the box” thinker.

He’s jumped so far out of the box that he landed in the lunatic asylum – a place chock-full of “out of the box” thinkers!

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/79 "2025-02-05T21:59:59Z")

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Just want to add, that first video is a textbook example of Christian anti-Semitism.  
‘The Jews in Israel (and by extension all Jews) are not the _Real Jews_, Christians are!’

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Let’s relocate all Floridians to someplace with free healthcare and free education. It’s a very generous move.

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/81 "2025-02-05T22:35:45Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> There was a shift in the Muslim voters away from Harris because of Biden’s position on the Gaza situation. I wonder how those voters are feeling now. A hard lesson to learn about American politics.

Yep. Biden really did all he legally could. Got two UN ceasefire deals, etc. But maybe he could have done a trump and stopped all aid to Israel- thereby losing the Jewish vote. lose/lose. Several poister here castigated Biden for that.

So to punish Biden for not doing stuff he really shouldnt do, they helped vote in trump- and surprise- the leopards really are eating faces.

> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> My money is firmly on ‘Why aren’t the Democrats stopping this?’

Yep.

This of course will be a money sink and cause massive terrorist attacks on the USA and environs, it will cost more than Afghanistan, and get the USA hated even more.

However, I do have some doubts it will really happen.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I have no sympathy for those protestors. They caused far more harm than good for their cause. Many will suffer from their misguided zeal.
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> There was no shortage of this being noted back when it happened too. Not a surprise except to them. Leopards, meet faces.

Yep.

> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> Now Gaza is distracting you from Musks boys taking over the treasury.

True.

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Much like Germany’s plan to send the Jews to Summer Camp?

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