# OMGosh, FFOTUS just announced US to sponsor ethnic cleansing in Gaza **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 5, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898 "2025-02-05T01:17:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/83 "2025-02-05T22:46:27Z")
There’s absolutely zero chance that Israel would “give” Gaza to the US. This is little more than the rambling of a mentally deranged old man who had very little idea where he is and what he’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/84 "2025-02-05T22:49:12Z")
Little Marco has no pride whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/85 "2025-02-05T22:49:59Z")
It’s a hell of a lot more than just some “rambling”. I don’t care how one feels about Gaza it’s insane to continually downplay the damage Trump is actively doing. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/86 "2025-02-05T22:53:13Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Israel is in a perpetual existential survival mode. They’ll do whatever it takes to survive, and that’s become especially egregious under Netanyahu which led directly to the Gaza crisis.\* > > As for “push[ing] the people out of Gaza”, mass deportations of Jews out of Germany and the occupied territories was the Nazis’ original plan. It was only after that didn’t work that the exterminations began. This is how genocides begin – one horrible, unthinkable idea that quickly becomes thinkable after all, and paves the way for normalizing an even more horrific one. This insidious escalation is the real menace of Trump. I am not aware of any Jews attacking Germans prior to WWII (as a policy for all Jews). For this I mean Germans who were not Jewish. Hamas has, at the center of its charter, the destruction of Israel: > THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS > > ``` > ======================================= > > ``` > > The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August > > 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, > > is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the > > territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive > > manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the > > basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad > > (Islamic Holy War). - [SOURCE](https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm) Israel has had missiles regularly shot at them for decades from Gaza. The people of Gaza ran amok in Israel killing and pillaging. Maybe some will argue Israel had it coming. But that is not the same as what Jews did in pre-war Germany (which was basically nothing). ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/87 "2025-02-05T22:59:21Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Israel has had missiles regularly shot at them for decades from Gaza. The people of Gaza ran amok in Israel killing and pillaging. I have one quibble- not really “the people of gaza” but Hamas. So the Oct attack certainly gave Israel reason to retaliate. But I think Netanyahu went too far. ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/88 "2025-02-05T23:03:00Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > is. What, _exactly_, is it he’s negotiating Possibly something very favorable to them, such as just as he predicted but including them in the plan They might be less prone to foreign involvement if they had a middle-class lifestyle ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/89 "2025-02-05T23:07:32Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I am not aware of any Jews attacking Germans prior to WWII (as a policy for all Jews). For this I mean Germans who were not Jewish. > > Hamas has, at the center of its charter, the destruction of Israel: It seems to me like you’re misunderstanding my meaning. German Jews were a scapegoat that the Nazis used for blaming all of Germany’s misfortunes on. They never attacked anyone, and of course were essentially blameless for all the things they were accused of. One can see, in frightening perspective, the parallel between Trump’s MAGA mob and the Nazis, where Trump blames immigrants for many of America’s woes, everything from the price of eggs to the disappearance of cats and dogs in Springfield, OH… ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/90 "2025-02-05T23:08:28Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > Possibly something very favorable to them, such as just as he predicted but including them in the plan They might be less prone to foreign involvement if they had a middle-class lifestyle Them? Palestinians? Israelis? Americans? Also, they are already backpedaling on his plans. Also part of his masterful negotiations? ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/91 "2025-02-05T23:19:35Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Them? Palestinians? Israelis? Americans? trump would negotiate a peace plan that involved wealthy investors from all over the world to create a stylish resort for the rich and famous. As part of the deal Gaza is rebuilt. Thier support from Iran and other hostile forces are eliminated and they might negotiate a peace that would bring them some prosperity. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/92 "2025-02-05T23:32:30Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > trump would negotiate a peace plan that involved wealthy investors from all over the world to create a stylish resort for the rich and famous. As part of the deal Gaza is rebuilt. Thier support from Iran and other hostile forces are eliminated and they might negotiate a peace that would bring them some prosperity Absolutely none of that is going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/93 "2025-02-05T23:35:29Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > a stylish resort for the rich and famous. Yeah, that worked out so well when it was called Cuba. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/94 "2025-02-05T23:45:35Z")
A better idea; we build out Disney Gaza. We can have attractions like Solomon’s Temple or The Dome of the Rock roller coaster. Lots of attractions to offend all three faiths. And of course a big beautiful It’s A Small World ride. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/95 "2025-02-06T01:01:04Z")
MAGAZA!! [Will it still fit on the front of a baseball cap??] ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/96 "2025-02-06T01:30:32Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > A better idea; we build out Disney Gaza. An all-American amusement park? With surfing? Best be praying to whatever gods there are that ol’ Donny boy ain’t a Randy Newman fan. He’s already unlocked three out of the four verses. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/97 "2025-02-06T03:05:30Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > An all-American amusement park? With surfing? Even our old friends put us down. > [@Kitten\_Mitten](#): > > But then he said the US will occupy Gaza, move out all the Palestinians to a number of other countries, and then rebuild it as the riviera of the Middle East. Un-freaking=believable. Asking other countries to take in refugees while he’s kicking as many as he can out of the U.S. I think the word we’re all looking for is ‘chutzpah’. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/98 "2025-02-06T03:23:27Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Absolutely none of that is going to happen. Yeah. If nothing else Trump doesn’t _deliver;_ he scams - and none of that profits _him._ And he’s a bigoted bully, not a diplomat. And you can’t ethically cleanse people into prosperity. I can imagine all sorts of scenarios but that one just doesn’t hold up at all. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/99 "2025-02-06T03:29:49Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > An all-American amusement park? With surfing? We’ll build our own Gaza Strip! With blackjack! And hookers! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/100 "2025-02-06T03:32:02Z")
Sec of State Rubio tries to walk back Trumps dumbshit comments. Sec of Defense Hegseth says “hold my triple gin & tonic”. All options are on the table. Such a unified voice this administration is putting forward! Sorry for the Fox News link. Also, please don’t watch the top video if you are in the slightest bit prone to nausea. > **[Defense Secretary Hegseth says 'all options' are on the table after Trump...](https://www.foxnews.com/media/defense-secretary-hegseth-says-all-options-table-after-trump-floated-us-takeover-gaza)** > > Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth discusses President Donald Trump's remarks about the future of the Gaza Strip and the Middle East on "The Ingraham Angle." ---
**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/101 "2025-02-06T03:49:42Z")
What if Trump declares he is going to transfer all of the Gazans to the West Bank. What do you think would happen next? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898/102 "2025-02-06T04:17:33Z")
> [@Ynnad](#): > > What if Trump declares he is going to transfer all of the Gazans to the West Bank. I doubt that even Netenyahu wants to try to forcibly relocate 2.2 million people, let alone “give” Gaza to the US. Israel definitely doesn’t have the manpower or logistical capacity for it, and I doubt the US could pull it off either without instituting a draft (which not even the magacult would go along with). I just hope he realizes that Trump is an absolute moron who’s going to do Israel far more harm than any other administration possibly could have done, and he’s partly responsible for putting him back in power. Imagine if the resolution of the Persian Gulf Cold War winds up being that KSA and Iran put aside their differences to present a united front against Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omgosh-ffotus-just-announced-us-to-sponsor-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/1013898.md?page=6)