# OMIGOD Final "Batman Begins" trailer!!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [April 28, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474 "2005-04-28T02:05:28Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/1 "2005-04-28T02:05:28Z")
[http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/batman\_begins/trailer4/large.html](http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/batman_begins/trailer4/large.html)
Direct Download: [http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/batman\_begins/batman\_begins-tlr4a\_m480.mov](http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/batman_begins/batman_begins-tlr4a_m480.mov)
OH THIS LOOKS SO AWESOME PLEASE DONT SUCK!!!
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### Author:  [@ZeroGyro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZeroGyro)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/2 "2005-04-28T05:15:06Z")
Am I the only one distracted by Christian Bale’s lisp (or is it a sibilant problem)? I don’t know how pronounced it is, but I gotta say that will be very jarring _any_ way when he is in the Batsuit. The voice is a huge part of the Dark Knight (maybe I can believe a green Bruce Wayne sounding like Bale).
Otherwise, the movie looks alright, though I doubt it will be the classic we all want it to be.
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### Author:  [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/3 "2005-04-28T11:42:35Z")
What’s this strange feeling I’m having? It feels like cautious optimisim, but stronger. Dear og. I think it’s hope. :eek:
This movie, and remember this is hope speaking, looks almost as good as the first. The cast is friggin’ deep. Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman, Katie Holmes, Ken Watanabe, Liam Neeson… 😃 And Cillian Murphy is really impressing me as Scarecrow. Loved the shot of him in the mask.
I know I’m setting myself up for a huge fall if this thing sucks, but as long as there are no nipples on the batsuit (and I didn’t see any), then it won’t be a waste of my $8.
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### Author:  [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/4 "2005-04-28T12:08:12Z")
I can’t believe I’m saying this… I can’t wait to see this!!!
Still hate the new batmobile.
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### Author:  [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/5 "2005-04-28T12:32:16Z")
Bale is at least capable of playing Batman with the extreme physicality the character displays in the comics. Keaton et. al. were never believable as a hero who basically goes out every night to beat criminals senseless.
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### Author:  [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/6 "2005-04-28T12:50:43Z")
You people are expecting a good movie just because it has top talent? HA.
My advice: eschew hype, ignore trailers, expect crap and go in predisposed to hating everything from the lighting to the dialogue to the acting and the plot. Expect nothing less than a spectacular trainwreck and a waste of your precious time.
Expect medoicrity… you might be pleasantly surprised but rarely disappointed.
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### Author:  [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/7 "2005-04-28T13:38:24Z")
While I am excited about Christian Bale being Batman, I would see him in just about any movie and be happy no matter how good or bad it is.
The reason I have hopes for this movie though is the director Christopher Nolan. As someone who has directed three feature length films and they have all been good (Insomnia) or excellent (Memento and Following), I expect that Batman Begins will not be something that he will be embarrased about.
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### Author:  [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/8 "2005-04-28T15:01:58Z")
You mean the cape can actually flutter?!?!?!?!
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### Author:  [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/9 "2005-04-28T15:12:01Z")
That annoying kid from Empire of the Sun has come a long way. This looks promising.
Hell, this looks much better than Burton’s Batman (which while visually stunning was paper-thin).
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/10 "2005-04-28T17:49:44Z")
> [@](#):
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> My advice: eschew hype, ignore trailers, expect crap and go in predisposed to hating everything from the lighting to the dialogue to the acting and the plot. Expect nothing less than a spectacular trainwreck and a waste of your precious time.
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> Expect medoicrity… you might be pleasantly surprised but rarely disappointed.
Bah, if I did that, I’d never go see any movie. It’s not worth five bucks to me to go see a movie I expect to completely suck. It is, however, worth it to go see a movie I have some hope for, and I do have some hope for this one.
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### Author:  [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/11 "2005-04-28T18:10:26Z")
I’ve thought Bale was the perfect choice ever since I saw American Psycho, and Equilibrium only confirmed it. The cast is great (mostly “actors” rather than “stars”), the director is better than competent, and I’m ready to put all the Burton and Schumacher camp and cheese out of my head and enjoy a kick-ass Batman movie.
That said, I still love Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, the theatrically-released feature-length film from Batman: The Animated Series. I think it’s the best portrayal of Bruce/Batman yet, so we’ll see if Nolan can do better than Timm and Dini.
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### Author:  [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/12 "2005-04-28T18:15:26Z")
> [@ZeroGyro](#):
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> The voice is a huge part of the Dark Knight (maybe I can believe a green Bruce Wayne sounding like Bale).
True, the voice is important and the best Batman voice has to be Kevin Conroy who did/does the voice for Batman:TAS, JL and JLU. He is the voice of Batman.
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### Author:  [@ZeroGyro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZeroGyro)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/13 "2005-04-28T18:54:54Z")
> [@adam yax](#):
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> True, the voice is important and the best Batman voice has to be Kevin Conroy who did/does the voice for Batman:TAS, JL and JLU. He is the voice of Batman.
Undoubtedly. Of the live-action Batmen, I think Val Kilmer was the best. I always thought Alec Baldwin would have been awesome as Batman, one of his main attributes being his voice. It has a nice raspy quality and he has used it masterfully playing a great many authoratative characters (_The Aviator_ the latest example of this).
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### Author:  [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/14 "2005-04-28T19:02:06Z")
Agreed, but Baldwin’s too old and out of shape now. He was a great choice to play The Shadow in the underrated 1994 movie, and I always thought he could have been a great Batman in the '80s (or perhaps Parallax, in a movie about Green Lantern Hal Jordan becoming a villain).
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### Author:  [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/15 "2005-04-28T19:14:53Z")
The trailer looks good. I’m not too sure about the Batmobile, either. I do like how Gotham actually looks like a real city, not the… whatever the hell Schumacher set his two monstrosities in.
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### Author:  [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/16 "2005-04-28T19:27:50Z")
I still hate the costume- he’s practically Iron Man in that thing. It still has the thick rubber cowl with no lateral movement and the black eye makeup (could you see Bruce Wayne using cold creme to get his makeup off every time he comes home?).
If you want to see a really cool comic style Bat costume, [check out](http://www.clarkbartram.com/batmanclark/batmanphotos/Batman__Dead_End_Stills/Batman_Stills/batman_stills_29.html) the costume from the Batman: Dead End short. That’s the direction I think they should have gone costume-wise.
That gripe aside, everything else looks very promising
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### Author:  [@ZeroGyro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZeroGyro)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/17 "2005-04-28T19:34:01Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> Agreed, but Baldwin’s too old and out of shape now. He was a great choice to play The Shadow in the underrated 1994 movie, and I always thought he could have been a great Batman in the '80s (or perhaps Parallax, in a movie about Green Lantern Hal Jordan becoming a villain).
Yeah, his weight probably being the bigger issue. I think if they ever make a “The Dark Knight Returns” film, Alec Baldwin would be perfect as Bats, if he could get in shape.
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### Author:  [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/18 "2005-04-28T20:26:41Z")
I like it that Petty Thug #1 refers to him as “the bat man.”
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### Author:  [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/19 "2005-04-28T20:40:16Z")
Isn’t that Petty Thug #3? 😛
> [@adam yax](#):
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> True, the voice is important and the best Batman voice has to be Kevin Conroy who did/does the voice for Batman:TAS, JL and JLU. He is the voice of Batman.
I agree. We were spoiled on that voice. Maybe they should just have Conroy dub over all of Bale’s lines.
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### Author:  [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2005, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/20 "2005-04-28T21:56:20Z")
So speaking of this movie, I’m confused about how it fits with the other Batman movies.
Is it part of the Batman series starting with the Tim Burton Batman movie?
Or is this some completely different project?
I heard about a year ago that the guy who directed Pi was going to be doing a Batman movie. Is this that movie? (In other words was he going to direct this one originally?) Or is that Batman movie a _different_ project than this one?
Please clear up my confusion…
-FrL-
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