# OMIGOD Final "Batman Begins" trailer!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 28, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474 "2005-04-28T02:05:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/41 "2005-04-29T18:39:11Z")
**Coding Error above! I’ll get a mod to erase it!** OH, NO! Instead of making me excited about this film, the new trailer has me worried! Watanabe’s one line (and he is what excited me more than anything besides the awesome director) made him look like a cheesy, cartoon supervillian. I was expecting gritty crime drama. I am worried it may be more “comic bookish” than I had hoped given Nolan’s participation. > [@BMax](#): > > Kim Basinger was easy on the eyes but her character’s subplot was unbelievable. Batman wouldn’t hook up with a girlfriend at that moment, he had a lot of work to do. Holmes has me worried, much for the same reason. I guess I understand the studios pushing for a love interest in EVERY film made (we had a thread once about films without any romance, I think…), but Batman is NOT a love story. Every bat film had to have a romance angle. Why? How often does Batman REALLY romance? It is all a ploy to keep up the playboy image. I have no problems going into non-fanboy territory for the sake of a good film, but it never results in dynamic cinema. It is always the same. The damsel in distress (with a sprinkling of “tough” because it is a modern world), is preachy or whiney (or both it seems in Holmes’s case). And Batman, who is a cold crime fighting machine, has a chance to show his softer side. And it eats up 1/3 of the film. The “romance” angle could torpedo this film. Though that scene with the arching back was nice, though! > [@](#): > > Alfred would recognize that fact and wouldn’t have pushed Bruce to get involved with this woman. Neither one of them would tell his new girlfriend that he’s Batman. Actually, I disagree with this. Alfred didn’t WANT Bruce to be Batman. He hates Batman. He was secretly thinking “this guy needs to get laid!” Another worry that reappeared was the concern of too many names above the title. That’s a lot of characters! Especially given that Bruce and Batman effectively count as two different characters. A lot to fit into two plus hours. I might have cut Lucious, Scarecrow, and saved Gorden for the sequel (and certainly cut the Holmes character). And I was really excited about this one. It was the only movie that excited me for the 2005 year… Worried. Worried. Worried. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/42 "2005-04-29T18:40:04Z")
**Wil** , you have to see Sin City, dude! And maybe sneak in Kung Fu Hustle if that’s your thing. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/43 "2005-04-29T18:43:00Z")
Lou, to spare your feelings, I didn’t post that I would rather have watched a Streisand film than to see Sin City! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/44 "2005-04-29T19:05:48Z")
Wow, I just got served! ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/45 "2005-04-30T15:08:44Z")
Not like that, at all! Nothing but love, buddy! ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2005, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/46 "2005-04-30T15:13:22Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > This movie, and remember this is hope speaking, looks almost as good as the first. “The first” being the one with Adam West? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2005, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/47 "2005-04-30T19:55:24Z")
> [@Thudlow Boink](#): > > “The first” being the one with Adam West? 😃 [Robert Lowery, actually.](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6304459661/104-6675590-2977518?v=glance) ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/48 "2005-04-30T23:45:42Z")
There’s easily a good movie in both of those villains, so I’m a little concerned about having the two of them. But, we’ll see how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![sleeepy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/49 "2005-05-01T01:31:36Z")
I like the two villains, excellent characters played by excellent actors. I am a bit dismayed that in five Batman movies there have been five love interests. This is Batman, who’s basically a slightly more well adjusted Punisher. Single minded, war on crime, yadda yadda yadda. There’s not a lot of lovin’ in his life. Hopefully it’s handled well and doesn’t tie up too much story time. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/50 "2005-05-01T13:58:58Z")
I certainly took up a lot of the trailer! Of the four other love interests, haven’t three of them discovered his secret identity? (There were technically TWO in _Batman and Robin_.) ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/51 "2005-05-01T14:01:14Z")
Er…that should be “It certainly took up…” They couldn’t put me in the trailer because I am the surprise villian, _The Dumbass!_ ---
**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/52 "2005-05-01T14:01:49Z")
> [@watsonwil](#): > > I certainly took up a lot of the trailer! > > Of the four other love interests, haven’t three of them discovered his secret identity? > > (There were technically TWO in _Batman and Robin_.) So the way to find out Batman’s secret identity is to fuck him? ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474/53 "2005-05-01T14:27:26Z")
I’d give up State Secrets, myself…😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omigod-final-batman-begins-trailer/301474.md?page=2)