# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2041 "2024-11-18T14:06:06Z")

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> [@Eric1](#):
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> neo Nazis paraded in Columbus, OH this weekend

Saw that posted on Twitter. Some MAGA immediately jumped in to point out that those were really Feds (apparently why they wear masks), and that the truth of these false flag operations will come out shortly after Trump is sworn in.

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2042 "2024-11-18T19:13:45Z")

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There was an NBC broadcast where they actually gave out the name of a Neo-Nazi group who was in the parade. I’m trying to backtrack to it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2043 "2024-11-18T22:15:54Z")

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> [@Eric1](#):
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> There was an NBC broadcast where they actually gave out the name of a Neo-Nazi group who was in the parade.

Was it 4-H? (4-H being “Heil Hitler” done twice.)

😜

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**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2044 "2024-11-18T22:53:12Z")

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I like your timing as a neighbor. I wondered if people ever make jokes about Nazis as backward in a rural way and now I’ve read yours!

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2045 "2024-11-19T13:50:57Z")

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Here are some evil motherfuckers in the news.

> **[Turkey newborn scandal: dozens of medics on trial over baby deaths](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62j595g0z0o)**
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> Ten newborns died in an alleged scam in which babies were allegedly moved between hospitals for profit.

DOZENS OF MEDICS!

What the hell is wrong with people? They did this for money.

Forty-seven people have gone on trial in Turkey in connection with an alleged scam in which newborns were transferred between hospitals for profit.

Prosecutors say doctors, nurses and ambulance drivers are responsible for the deaths of at least 10 children.

The defendants are accused of making false diagnoses to transfer babies to 19 private hospitals, where they were allegedly kept in intensive care in neonatal units for lengthy, sometimes unnecessary treatments.

According to the 1,400-page indictment, those involved shared the social security payments earned for each day a baby stayed in the unit. The defendants deny wrongdoing. Forty-seven people have gone on trial in Turkey in connection with an alleged scam in which newborns were transferred between hospitals for profit.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2046 "2024-11-19T14:18:43Z")

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A civilized country which descends into autocracy and whose economy is then destroyed to feed the vanity of one man is a terrible thing to watch.

It’s even harder to live through. When most of the successful classes have had their livelihoods and assets destroyed, some small fraction will turn to scammery, even beastly scammery.

Smart, creative, capable people unused to hardship will do amazing feats of self-justification when hardship comes to them too.

Mark my words.

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**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2047 "2024-11-19T19:50:50Z")

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Exactly how did the scam work… I read the BBC article and I don’t get why the hospital workers would get paid the social security payment for the infants. Would not these payments gone to the parents? Or is social security payment a British way of saying medical insurance payout.? Aka Medicare Billing fraud?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2048 "2024-11-19T19:56:11Z")

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Googling, in Türkiye, “Social Security” includes a bunch of stuff including health insurance.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2049 "2024-11-19T20:12:31Z")

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> [@Nightaudit](#):
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> Exactly how did the scam work… I read the BBC article and I don’t get why the hospital workers would get paid the social security payment for the infants. Would not these payments gone to the parents? Or is social security payment a British way of saying medical insurance payout.? Aka Medicare Billing fraud?

From the little I read, the “social security” was payments made to the hospital for the unnecessary medical procedures.  
Think of it like an medical office billing patients for thousands of dollars of medical equipment they don’t need (and may not even know is being ordered under their name) and collecting the money from medicare.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2050 "2024-11-19T20:19:19Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Think of it like an medical office billing patients for thousands of dollars of medical equipment they don’t need (and may not even know is being ordered under their name) and collecting the money from medicare.

Coincidentally, just yesterday some doctors in Michigan pled guilty of doing just that.

[Three West Michigan doctors must pay up in Medicare fraud](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/three-west-michigan-doctors-must-pay-up-in-medicare-fraud/ar-AA1ujY45?ocid=BingNewsSerp)

> Kordish, Effiong and other doctors “participated in nationwide telemedicine fraud schemes by ordering medically unnecessary orthotic braces and genetic testing, allegedly wasting Medicare dollars to line their own pockets,”

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2051 "2024-11-20T03:03:52Z")

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What Lexington “social media” is promulgating this claim?

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2052 "2024-11-20T03:05:21Z")

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Which is among the unconfirmed rumblings. Hope it remains that way.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2053 "2024-11-22T03:19:50Z")

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This a bit late, but here are two contenders for Evil MFers. Both of these cases happened in China.

First up, [Driver kills 35 people in ramming attack on crowd in China’s Zhuhai](https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinese-police-detain-man-after-hit-and-run-attack-leaves-several-wounded-2024-11-12/). (The link goes to Reuters.)

> A driver rammed his car into a crowd at a sports centre in southern China, killing 35 people and severely injuring 43 in one of the deadliest attacks in contemporary Chinese history.

And what was the trigger for this carnage?

> Police said the 62-year-old driver, with the surname Fan, had been captured and was hospitalised for wounds believed to have been self-inflicted with a knife to the neck and other parts of his body. Fan had been upset about the split of assets in his divorce settlement, police added.

Then we have [eight people knifed to death at a technical school](https://apnews.com/article/china-knife-attack-yixing-stabbing-school-xu-1cb98b756a2d638f68c1a04bb477e192). (The link goes to AP News.)

> A stabbing attack at a vocational school in the eastern Chinese city of Wuxi on Saturday left eight people dead and 17 others injured, local police said.
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> The attack took place at the Wuxi Vocational Institute of Arts and Technology in Yixing, a smaller city within Wuxi, at around 6:30 p.m. local time, the Yixing police said in a statement.
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> The suspect, a 21-year old male student surnamed Xu, was detained on site.

And the trigger?

> Police said Wu had failed his examinations and could not graduate, and that he was dissatisfied about his pay at an internship. He decided to vent his frustrations via the attack, the statement said.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2054 "2024-11-25T04:47:57Z")

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[word we do not use here] who goes by “Canvas Tent Queen” [posted video on tiktok of](https://atlantablackstar.com/2024/11/22/tiktok-video-leads-to-violent-threats-against-native-american-children-in-arizona/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark) a large-ish group of young’uns on the move in the Arizona desert, set to dramatic music. Her post resulted in some of the most vile comments, theatening to visit violence upon the children for … being _other_, I guess.

I mean, Navajo youth invading Arizona, _this will not stand!_

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2055 "2024-11-25T16:26:18Z")

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A couple of clarifications, not clear from your post: the woman who posted was _trying_ to stir up shit, not just randomly posting a video of young people in the desert. Her voiceover included questions like “who dropped these people here?” i.e. “these look like illegal aliens to me.” I think that’s what the troglodytes in the comments were reacting to.

Also, the link is not to tiktok but to a news story about the whole incident, so probably harmless to click it, if you want more information.

> [@eschereal](#):
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> [word we do not use here]

I don’t think there are any restrictions on the word “asshole.” Or are you advertising that you want to use a slur associated solely with women, but you’re constrained by the rules? Way to go.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2056 "2024-11-25T18:44:06Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Or are you advertising that you want to use a slur associated solely with women, but you’re constrained by the rules? Way to go.

I watch too many British movies, where words that are gender-specific in the US are not in British vernacular.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2057 "2024-11-25T19:07:56Z")

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I can make no sense out of that as a response. You couldn’t think of another word or phrase to use that isn’t a slur to anyone? “Brainless troublemaker” or something? Oh, never mind. Just not worth it.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2058 "2024-11-25T19:09:35Z")

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How about just saying “A _person_ who goes by . . .”?

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2059 "2024-11-25T22:08:41Z")

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Excuse me, I thought the agreed-upon term was “Evil MFer.”

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2060 "2024-11-25T23:20:26Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> I don’t think there are any restrictions on the word “asshole.” Or are you advertising that you want to use a slur associated solely with women, but you’re constrained by the rules? Way to go.

Are we talking the C-word or the K-word?

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