# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2081 "2024-11-29T09:29:20Z")

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A clinic in New Mexico must pay $412 million to a man whose penis was “decimated” and “completely ruined” by medically unnecessary injections he was given after being misdiagnosed with ED.

[https://www.theolympian.com/news/nation-world/national/article296257084.html](https://www.theolympian.com/news/nation-world/national/article296257084.html)

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> “(The man) is now impotent and unable to have an erection, cannot urinate standing up, and has irreversible fibrosis of the penis or scar tissue where living cells used to be. His impotence is permanent and the damage is completely irreversible,” the release said.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2082 "2024-11-29T17:17:09Z")

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Who’s the evil actor in this incident? Or are we conflating _incompetent_ and/or _negligent_ with _evil_, now that we have \>2K posts?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2083 "2024-11-29T18:35:52Z")

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I suppose that _if_ the misdiagnosis was deliberate to trigger the highly profitable “medical need” for the legit injections, which just happened by bad luck to go badly for the patient, we could lay the label “evil” on the fraudulent medical practice.

Or if the treatment itself was pure quackery, that can be evil. E.g. injecting or drinking bleach or consuming the legit medication ivermectin as a cure for COVID, anyone?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2084 "2024-11-29T20:45:53Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Who’s the evil actor in this incident?

The clinic that gave the man a bad diagnosis in order to sell him a bad treatment that he didn’t need and which obliterated his junk.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2085 "2024-11-29T21:27:07Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> > [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > Who’s the eviI actor in this incident?
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> The clinic that gave the man a bad diagnosis in order to sell him a bad treatment that he didn’t need and which obliterated his junk.

I guess I have to read the link

\< **kd99** goes back to read link\>

Okay, that’s pretty clear that it was worse than simple negligence or incompetence. It was serious malpractice with a depraved indifference for the well-being of their patient.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2086 "2024-11-30T05:24:34Z")

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@Alessan and @Czarcasm, back in the day, the word cunt was indeed used as a word for female genitalia. But in more recent times, it has evolved to become a more generic term for the ‘worst of the worst’ possible person, and nothing to do with being female.

Once upon a time, it was the only word I would NEVER use. I swore like a wharfie, bloody, fuck, bitch, arsehole, whatever, but I never used the word cunt.

But how the world has changed (and me too I guess) because there are plenty of people out there for whom the word arsehole is nowhere near a descriptor. They are just cunts. And mostly they are bloke cunts…t’were a female, I’d call her a cunty bitch. 😛

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2087 "2024-11-30T05:26:04Z")

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Doesn’t answer my question, though.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2088 "2024-11-30T05:31:42Z")

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Because at this point in the evolution of the English language, dick and prick are reserved for males.

Now while females can do ‘dickish’ things’, prick is the sole domain of blokes. A bloke can be a dick, a prick and/or a cunt, depending upon the severity of their behaviour.

Having said that, in Great Britain and Australia, cunt can also be used as a term of endearment. Eg:

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2089 "2024-11-30T05:34:10Z")

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Fuck, messed that up. For example, you (a male) come across an old friend from yonks ago, and your greeting might well be, “Jacko, ya old cunt, how’s it going?” and it will be taken with the good nature with which it was intended.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2090 "2024-11-30T06:20:45Z")

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The New York Times has published an email Pete Hegseth’s mom wrote to him in 2018.

It’s not flattering.

> **[Text of the Email That Pete Hegseth’s Mother Sent Him](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/29/us/politics/hegseth-email-text.html)**
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> Penelope Hegseth sent the email to her son in 2018 as he was in the middle of divorcing his wife, Samantha.

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> You are an abuser of women — that is the ugly truth and I have no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around, and uses women for his own power and ego. You are that man (and have been for years) and as your mother, it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth…
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> We still love you, but we are broken by your behavior and lack of character. I don’t want to write emails like this and never thought I would. If it damages our relationship further, then so be it, but at least I have said my piece.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2091 "2024-11-30T18:16:23Z")

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I feel exactly the same as Kambuckta does about the word cunt. It used to be like nails on a chalkboard for me to hear. It doesn’t bother me in the least anymore.

Still, I’d never actually use it since I don’t know how others feel about it.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2092 "2024-11-30T18:22:02Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> @Alessan and @Czarcasm, back in the day, the word cunt was indeed used as a word for female genitalia. But in more recent times, it has evolved to become a more generic term for the ‘worst of the worst’ possible person, and nothing to do with being female.
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> Once upon a time, it was the only word I would NEVER use. I swore like a wharfie, bloody, fuck, bitch, arsehole, whatever, but I never used the word cunt.

And is US usage it’s totally reserved for the worst of the worst … of women and only women.

In US usage it’s a nonsequitur / misnomer if aimed at a man and a monumental combo of max-case personal insult and wide-ranging generalized weapons-grade misogyny if aimed at a woman.

So really, right up there with the “N-word” as something _never_ to utter in front of a US audience.

Which really makes me wonder not at all about any of the non-US folks in this digression in this thread, but rather a lot about the US folks in this thread seemingly agitating for its use here.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2093 "2024-11-30T23:58:48Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> So really, right up there with the “N-word” as something _never_ to utter in front of a US audience.

It’s the ultimate derogatory misogynistic term in the US.

The B word is also really bad but still not at that level.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2094 "2024-12-01T00:10:13Z")

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And, of course, lest we forget, this is an American-based board, and most of our membership is American.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2095 "2024-12-03T00:43:00Z")

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Asshole takes the cowardly way out.

> The heart of this trial focused on two women: one who said Golubski began sexually abusing her when she was a young teen in middle school, and another who said he began abusing her after her twin sons were arrested. Prosecutors said seven other women were planning to testify that Golubski abused or harassed them as well. And advocates for the women believe there are other victims who have either died or have been afraid to come forward.

> **[An ex-detective accused of abusing women died in an apparent suicide as his...](https://apnews.com/article/kansas-city-police-abuse-trial-roger-golubski-de11e2b098348066b4f37ebd304cbe6d?user_email=c670f76b9ea3e4a287eac163aa636c2982b094e37632506fec6dbc1d27c6da2a&utm_medium=Afternoon_Wire&utm_source=Sailthru_AP&utm_campaign=AfternoonWire_Dec2_2024&utm_term=Afternoon%20Wire)**
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> Authorities say a white ex-police detective in Kansas accused of sexually assaulting Black women has died in an apparent suicide at his home.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2096 "2024-12-03T01:13:37Z")

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Still a better outcome than if he went to trial and was acquitted.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2097 "2024-12-03T05:11:14Z")

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I don’t seem to mind, when someone’s life is crashing down due to their own actions, that they “take the easy way out.” However, I do recognize that the victims will not have the opportunity to have their say in public, in court, and I don’t know how much or how little that means to them.

I won’t be surprised if there are other factors involved that I am not thinking of. On the whole, I think dying is being punished enough.

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**Author:** ![Wallaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/dc4da7/32.png) [@Wallaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallaby)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2098 "2024-12-03T06:24:12Z")

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It also protects him (or his relatives) from paying any criminal compensation, since he is not found guilty (or at make it a lot more difficult).

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2099 "2024-12-03T16:37:52Z")

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> [@Wallaby](#):
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> It also protects him (or his relatives) from paying any criminal compensation

What is “criminal compensation?” I assume you mean civil liability based on civil suits? I wonder if victims can sue his estate for damages?

Relatives would not be directly liable to any civil liability judgments for his behavior, but it is true that if he had civil judgments it would have reduced his assets (if any) and affected some of his relatives at second hand (e.g. loss of inheritance).

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2100 "2024-12-03T18:46:17Z")

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Hope she meets some crazy cat ladies.

> **[So Wait... That 'Innocent' Ohio Woman Who’s 'Cat-Eating' Video Sparked...](https://www.theroot.com/so-wait-that-innocent-ohio-woman-who-s-cat-eating-vi-1851712271)**
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> The Ohio woman accused of eating a cat was sentenced to one year in prison.

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