# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2101 "2024-12-03T19:00:33Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> What is “criminal compensation?”

Fines are often a punishment for crimes. More common than incarceration at any rate. It’s not like you only have to pay in court as the result of a lawsuit. Anyone who has has a speeding ticket can attest to that.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2102 "2024-12-03T21:06:07Z")

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For felonies, like sexual assault? I hope not. In any case, criminal fines wouldn’t go to victims, would they?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2103 "2024-12-03T21:09:20Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> In any case, criminal fines wouldn’t go to victims, would they?

Correct, they’d only collect through lawsuits (which you alluded to before, as part of a civil case).

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2104 "2024-12-04T15:16:21Z")

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This is yet another case of children being used for dangerous work. I could understand (but not condone, obviously) one instance of it. People will slip through the cracks and mistakes will happen. But this many? And at the same facility, according to the article? That’s just deliberate malfeasance, greed, or carelessness.

> **[Investigators find 11 children working 'dangerous' overnight cleaning shift...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/investigators-found-11-children-working-dangerous-overnight-cleaning-s-rcna182587)**
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> The children used “corrosive cleaners to clean head splitters, jaw pullers, bandsaws, neck clippers and other equipment" the Labor Department said.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2105 "2024-12-04T15:44:36Z")

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Letting children clean head splitters, jaw pullers, and neck clippers at night: what could go wrong?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2106 "2024-12-04T16:04:09Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Letting children clean head splitters, jaw pullers, and neck clippers at night: what could go wrong? -

They’ll start necking?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2107 "2024-12-04T19:30:26Z")

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A raw milk supplier, upset that its products are being pulled from the market due to the presence of bird flu, is calling it a “political issue”.

> **[California suspends Raw Farm milk products after bird flu detected, health...](https://abcnews.go.com/US/california-suspends-raw-farm-milk-products-after-bird/story?id=116439945)**
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> All raw whole milk and cream products produced by Raw Farm LLC are being voluntarily recalled following multiple detections of bird flu virus.

Guess that goes for recalls of E. coli-contaminated quarter-pounders and Listeria-containing ice cream too - it’s all political.

Thank goodness the Trump administration won’t allow persecution of honest businessmen. Let the market decide!

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2108 "2024-12-04T22:22:24Z")

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I guess Michael Swango is a political prisoner

> **[Michael Swango](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Swango)**
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> Michael Joseph Swango (born James Michael Swango, October 21, 1954) is an American serial killer and physician who is estimated to have been involved in as many as 60 fatal poisonings of patients and colleagues in the United States and Zimbabwe, although he admitted to causing only four deaths. He was sentenced in 2000 to three consecutive life terms without the possibility of parole and is serving his sentence at ADX Florence at his own request.
> Michael Swango was born in Tacoma, Washington a...

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2109 "2024-12-05T00:40:14Z")

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Well, he was born in Tacoma – what more need be said?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2110 "2024-12-05T01:05:35Z")

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That woman was never, so far as I know, described as “innocent”. She was crazy. And also not Haitian.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2111 "2024-12-05T01:31:51Z")

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Ouch!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2112 "2024-12-05T02:16:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> A Facebook post by UnitedHealth Group, the parent company of UnitedHealthcare, said it was “deeply saddened and shocked at the passing of our dear friend and colleague Brian Thompson.” But that post has garnered over 11,000 laughing emojis as of the time of this writing, far outweighing the more somber emojis used to express condolences. Comments have been turned off for that post, but shares included comments like “I would offer thoughts and prayers but they are not covered as they are out of network.”…
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> The person who shot Brian Thompson is still at large, and the NYPD is offering a $10,000 reward for information that leads to an arrest and conviction. But even that news made for another opportunity for people on social media to point out how they’ve been harmed by UnitedHeath’s policies. As one user wrote on Bluesky, “The reward out for the person who shot United Healthcare’s CEO isn’t even enough to cover 1/9 of the bill we got for 28 days of radiation.”

There’s something beautiful about how moments of tragedy can really bring Americans together.

> **[Bitter Americans React to UnitedHealthcare CEO's Murder: 'My Empathy Is Out...](https://gizmodo.com/bitter-americans-react-to-unitedhealthcare-ceos-murder-my-empathy-is-out-of-network-2000534520)**
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> UnitedHealth's social media was flooded with scathing comments after the apparent assassination of its executive in New York City.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2113 "2024-12-05T02:22:11Z")

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> **[Internet Super-Sleuth May Have Tracked Location of Healthcare CEO Assassin](https://www.tmz.com/2024/12/04/civilian-may-have-tracked-location-of-healthcare-ceo-assassin-citi-bike/)**
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> A man’s stepping forward with a jaw-dropping claim -- he says he may have figured out the whereabouts of the assassin who shot UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson ... all thanks to Citi Bike's tracking data.

> <https://x.com/rtwlz/status/1864371263004922158>

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2114 "2024-12-05T02:24:40Z")

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CNN says it wasn’t a CitiBike after all, so this is probably a dead end.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2115 "2024-12-05T09:08:59Z")

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Must confess I’m curious why that person is so invested in Citibike data.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2116 "2024-12-05T09:16:13Z")

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He says in the thread he was doing a “data visualization experiment”.

I’m going to assume he’s a student of some sort and he has been given special access to their data, because if any private citizen can just track the locations of rental bikes while they’re in use that sounds like a serious problem.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2117 "2024-12-05T09:39:00Z")

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Just going to mention: it’s been 404’d now but The Times of Israel ran an op-ed piece unironically titled **“Lebensraum Needed For Israel’s Exploding Population** ”.

WTAF.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2118 "2024-12-05T14:23:26Z")

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I’d hope that _someone_ would’ve captured and archived that.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2119 "2024-12-05T14:32:40Z")

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[Bit of chat on Reddit about i](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1h6yb7s/lebensraum_needed_for_israels_exploding_population/)t, with a screenshot of the title. Apparently it’s a blog that goes off on a pro-Russia tangent but does advocate for expansion into “Judah and Samaria”.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2120 "2024-12-05T14:46:04Z")

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Here you go:

> **[The Blogs: Lebensraum Needed for Israel's Exploding Population | Dan …](https://archive.is/1yPRU)**
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> archived 5 Dec 2024 05:20:53 UTC

Strange article. Israel is only mentioned in the first two paragraphs; the rest is about global population density, immigration and climate change. The writer, Dan Ehrlich, is an American blogger whose politics seem right-wing but not far-right, although that’s just from skimming his articles.

Something is very fishy here.

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