# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2121 "2024-12-05T14:52:59Z")

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I agree. I don’t know anything about the owners of the ToI other than what Wikipedia says but it still strikes me as odd that the headline alone got through editorial review.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2122 "2024-12-05T15:15:28Z")

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Yes. A website referred to as The Blogs is hosted by the Times of Israel and features articles by “third-party” bloggers who are not affiliated with the Times. So this wasn’t an “op-ed” published by the newspaper. If it did get deleted from The Blogs it’s not surprising.

As Alessan notes, the blog, by an American writer based on London, is almost entirely about Western countries facing population pressures due to migrants emigrating from countries affected by climate change. The gratuitous remark about “lebensraum” and israel seems weirdly unconnected to the rest of the article.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2123 "2024-12-05T17:03:48Z")

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Next thing you’ll tell us the Sun-Times has no control over the content of this messageboard.

(That said, it doesn’t say “Sun-Times” at the top of this page, whereas it does prominently say “The Times of Israel” on the blogs pages.)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2124 "2024-12-05T19:30:05Z")

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Meanwhile in the US:

> **[Police illegally sell restricted weapons, supplying crime](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-selling-restricted-guns-posties/)**
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> These high-powered weapons are only meant for police. How are they ending up in criminals' hands?

Police are selling high-powered weapons to criminals. U-S-A! U-S-A!

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2125 "2024-12-05T19:56:21Z")

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Personal profit by the police chief of a 3-officer force.

> “If I’m guilty of this, every cop in the nation’s going to jail”

he said as he was sentenced to 5 years in prison. “Gee, Mom, all the guys are doing it!”

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2126 "2024-12-05T20:00:13Z")

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Think of it this way; by selling the guns to felons, they’re ensuring that the police will have plenty of crime to investigate in the future.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2127 "2024-12-05T20:22:25Z")

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I think it might even be worse: cops don’t need high-powered guns (these guys certainly didn’t) unless other criminals have them.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2128 "2024-12-05T20:24:55Z")

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Perhaps there are kickbacks from the weapons manufacturers?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2129 "2024-12-05T21:04:55Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm quoting the police chief](#):
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> “If I’m guilty of this, every cop in the nation’s going to jail”

Sounds good to me. Replace them with people that respect the law.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2130 "2024-12-06T00:54:56Z")

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Back in a more innocent time when I was in what is now called “IT” I used to say

> Selling computers to the government is like selling guns to the Indians.

I now think selling guns to the government was an even larger mistake.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2131 "2024-12-06T01:10:35Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> “Gee, Mom, all the guys are doing it!”

And cops wonder why people don’t trust them.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2132 "2024-12-07T10:26:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> However, when government auditors investigated firearms that law enforcement agencies reported missing over a 15-year period, the General Services Administration [Inspector General found](https://www.gsaig.gov/sites/default/files/ipa-reports/GSASurplusFirearmDonation_Eval_June122015.pdf) that more than two-thirds had not gone missing at all but, rather, were inappropriately sold or traded —including Uzis and grenade launchers that were never recovered.

Damn. Grenade launchers?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2133 "2024-12-07T12:56:57Z")

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Bernie Sanders says he could find “common ground” with RFJ Jr. as HHS secretary and hasn’t decided whether to support his nomination, despite Jr.'s “very wrong” views on fluoridation and vaccines

Is Bernie a hybrid of evil and stupid?

> **[Sanders says RFK Jr. "exactly correct" on food issues, has not decided on...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-rfk-health-human-services/)**
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> The independent Vermont senator also called some of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s views "very wrong."

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2134 "2024-12-07T14:06:50Z")

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That sounds to me like trying to make the best of a bad situation. Not literally every idea Kennedy has is wrong, so if we push hard on the few right ones he has, we might at least be able to accomplish something. Maybe even keep him distracted from some of the most-wrong ideas.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2135 "2024-12-07T14:32:38Z")

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Making the best of the situation would entail keeping that worm-brained, HIV-denying, virulently antivax and anti-fluoridation dipshit from holding office in the first place.

> **[RFK Jr. as HHS Secretary will be a catastrophe for public health and medical...](https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2024/11/15/rfk-jr-as-hhs-secretary-will-be-a-catastrophe-for-public-health-and-medical-research/)**
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> President-Elect Donald Trump has nominated antivax activist and conspiracy theoristRFK Jr. to be HHS Secretary. Health science and public health are so screwed.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2136 "2024-12-07T15:00:49Z")

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As always, “making the best of” depends yugely on which aspects of the situation you consider unchangeable givens, which are easy to change / influence, and where all the others fall on the spectrum between those poles.

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**Author:** ![Jumpbass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jumpbass/32/147_2.png) [@Jumpbass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jumpbass)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2137 "2024-12-07T15:58:00Z")

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Jon Stewart had Bernie on his podcast. The issue Bernie is talking about is RFK’s position that processed food is making Americans fat and sick. Hard to not agree with that.

Disclaimer: I am NOT a RFK supporter, but that’s a point I agree with also.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2138 "2024-12-07T16:01:28Z")

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Perhaps Bernie Sanders expects RFK Jr’s pro-choice stance to kill his chances among Republicans so he can look like he’s willing to be fair to a Trump nominee? Though that suggests a level of deviousness.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2139 "2024-12-07T16:11:02Z")

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> [@Jumpbass](#):
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> Jon Stewart had Bernie on his podcast. The issue Bernie is talking about is RFK’s position that processed food is making Americans fat and sick. Hard to not agree with that.
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> Disclaimer: I am NOT a RFK supporter, but that’s a point I agree with also.

Oh, that reminds me, I have to take my blind pig out truffle hunting tomorrow (I like to do it on Sundays. The woods are uncrowded because everybody else is at church).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2140 "2024-12-07T16:24:14Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Making the best of the situation would entail keeping that worm-brained, HIV-denying, virulently antivax and anti-fluoridation dipshit from holding office in the first place.

And how you propose to do that?

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