# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2241 "2025-01-03T20:28:44Z")

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This probably straddles the line between stupid and evil, but I’m going to put it here.

[https://wgntv.com/northwest-indiana/came-to-my-house-like-the-mob-east-chicago-principal-among-3-placed-on-leave-after-charges/](https://wgntv.com/northwest-indiana/came-to-my-house-like-the-mob-east-chicago-principal-among-3-placed-on-leave-after-charges/)

> The mother heard loud banging and her doorbell ring that night. She heard feet running up her stairs before she could check her Ring camera to see who was there, documents state.
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> “Give me the s\*\*\*, give me all of it, give me everything that you stole,” is what the mother heard next, documents state.

And who was it?

> An East Chicago principal, dean and basketball coach have been placed on administrative leave after being accused of storming into a home to get back stolen items from another high school.

Even if it was legal to do this, apparently a basketball coach, a dean and a school principal, between the three of them, didn’t consider that this is a great way to get yourself shot.

I know they won’t but I really hope they see the inside of a jail cell, even if it’s just for a few days.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2242 "2025-01-03T20:46:01Z")

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To be honest, the bit I found interesting in that story is that the items were stolen from a visiting locker room and that the students were seen doing so on “surveillance footage.” So that school had security cameras in a _locker room_? Isn’t there an expectation of privacy there?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2243 "2025-01-03T20:57:14Z")

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High schools have deans?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2244 "2025-01-03T21:00:23Z")

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Apparently the trend these days is to separate school administration between a principal who manages the faculty and a “dean of students” who oversees the kids, rather than having one principal do both jobs.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2245 "2025-01-03T21:00:32Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> To be honest, the bit I found interesting in that story is that the items were stolen from a visiting locker room and that the students were seen doing so on “surveillance footage.” So that school had security cameras in a _locker room_? Isn’t there an expectation of privacy there?

I’d imagine they mean cameras elsewhere in the school. At least I hope so.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2246 "2025-01-03T21:01:24Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> One man convicted of selling body parts and fetal corpses; the buyer awaits sentencing.
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> > A Wichita man who stole human body parts and fetal corpses when he worked at Wesley Medical Center and sold them to someone he met online was sentenced Thursday to spend 18 months in prison
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> > “Facebook communications establish that Pereyra sold multiple fetal corpses to Ensanian, as well as a partial foot, a human heart, slices of liver, brain, and kidneys, a spleen, a foot, intestine pieces, a testicle, a jar of toes, skin, and fat, dried toes, and miscellaneous other organs … The transactions totaled over $5,000 in the aggregate,” court records say.
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> [Wesley Medical Center employee stole and sold human body parts, fetuses. He’ll go to prison](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/wesley-medical-center-employee-stole-and-sold-human-body-parts-fetuses-he-ll-go-to-prison/ar-AA1wSbLk?ocid=BingNewsSerp)

Ick. Well, I suppose he found it easier than digging up graves would have been.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2247 "2025-01-03T21:08:35Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Apparently the trend these days is to separate school administration between a principal who manages the faculty and a “dean of students” who oversees the kids, rather than having one principal do both jobs.

In my high school, the vice principal was responsible for handling the kids, which meant that you were usually sent to his office if you screwed up. But that could have been because our principal was a bit of a milquetoast, while our VP was fricken’ terrifying (although a really nice guy underneath).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2248 "2025-01-03T21:16:37Z")

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Same thing seemed to be the case in the US Navy (at least when I was serving). The XO (Executive Officer) was the asshole everybody hated (thus giving us a common enemy that we could all despise together), while the CO floated above it all, and just ran the ship.

A lot of it was probably theatre.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2249 "2025-01-03T21:56:19Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> One man convicted of selling body parts and fetal corpses; the buyer awaits sentencing.

Holy shit, my ex-fiancee was a nurse there decades ago.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2250 "2025-01-04T00:07:23Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> One man convicted of selling body parts and fetal corpses

“Who’s got 17 thumbs and is going to jail? **This guy!** ”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2251 "2025-01-04T00:08:12Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> “Who’s got 17 thumbs and is going to jail? **This guy!** ”

Slow clap.

👏

(That emoji also looks like a hand being severed.)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2252 "2025-01-04T00:50:08Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> High schools have deans?

The basic setup is usually the same, with one head honcho and a few other administrators under them who handle various categories of tasks. The titles can vary, but “dean” is not an uncommon one. At private schools, there’s often also a separate principal and president (the president is more concerned with the school as a business, while the principal is more concerned with the school as a school).

At my current school, there’s a President, a few Vice-Presidents in various roles, a Principal, an Assistant Principal for Academics, and an Assistant Principal for Student Success. At another school, the two Assistant Principals might easily be called “deans”.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2253 "2025-01-04T00:53:59Z")

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In our district, deans deal specifically with student discipline and such, while asst. principals deal more with administration and business. Some schools have deans, others do not.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2254 "2025-01-04T01:03:07Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@Gyrate](#):
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> > “Who’s got 17 thumbs and is going to jail? **This guy!** ”
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> Slow clap.
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> 👏
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> (That emoji also looks like a hand being severed.) -

More like it’s already severed and going _splat_ on the ground.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2255 "2025-01-04T02:24:15Z")

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My high school had a dream, 20mumble years ago.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2256 "2025-01-04T02:33:21Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> More like it’s already severed and going _splat_ on the ground.

Hey, now we know why someone fist asked _What’s the sound of one hand splatting?_

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2257 "2025-01-04T03:29:53Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@Railer13](#):
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> > One man convicted of selling body parts and fetal corpses
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> “Who’s got 17 thumbs and is going to jail? **This guy!** ”

I’m CRYING with laughter! 🤣

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2258 "2025-01-04T10:57:12Z")

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As a thief I guess we could say he was all thumbs.

So clumsy; got caught. Too bad; so sad.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2259 "2025-01-04T12:22:42Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> My high school had a dream, 20mumble years ago.

My high school had a dream too, just not the Martin Luthor King dream.

More of a nightmare of repression, inequality and opression.

But we did have a “rector” (nominally an Anglican school) who oversaw education and religion, and a largely anonymous admin flunky who dealt with the business side of things, the “bursar”.

FWIW, and off topic, our rector got fired pretty damn quick when it turned out he had requested to take nude pictures of one boy in my year, naked, with and without an erection. Supposedly for “science class” (biology).

Sorry, in keeping with the thread, this did not make the news. It was so silently executed, I think I was one of just a handful of students who knew the reason for his sudden departure. No news coverage at all.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2260 "2025-01-04T12:55:01Z")

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Reminds me of how Poul Anderson described the Navy way:

> The ultimate authority-source is kept remote, godlike, practically unapproachable [the Captain, or The Old Man]. Your immediate superior is a mean son of a bitch who makes you toe the mark and whom you therefore hate [the Chief]. But _his_ superior is as kind and sympathetic as rank allows [The XO].

(brackets include my annotation)

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