# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2261 "2025-01-04T12:58:13Z")

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Yeah, I was in the military myself. I’m very familiar with the CO/XO good cop/bad cop routine.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2262 "2025-01-04T13:10:29Z")

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The way we described it in USAF was that the CO & XO stood back to back as a single mind-melded entity. The XO’s job was to face downwards and run the hierarchy of subordinates, while the CO faced upwards to cater to the needs of the higher-ups.

And this pattern was, or should be, largely replicated all up and down the hierarchy. Even at the low level of an infantry platoon you had the upward-facing Lieutenant and the downward-facing platoon Sergeant.

The higher up the hierarchy, the more sharp the divide between the stuff in the XO’s bailiwick and the stuff in the CO’s.

It wasn’t necessarily good cop / bad cop as such, but for sure if there was bad news, you first heard about it from the XO. And since the CO was your first level of appeal from an XO decision you didn’t like, at least sometimes that’d trigger a reversal of policy. Which contributed to the good cop / bad cop dynamic even if that wasn’t a deliberate plot by the CO/XO mind-meld to foster that dynamic.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2263 "2025-01-04T20:08:20Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> > Your immediate superior is a mean son of a bitch who makes you toe the mark and whom you therefore hate [the Chief].

My dad was a chief in the Navy so this tracks.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2264 "2025-01-04T20:19:44Z")

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I’ve never been in the military, but I took Navy ROTC in high school and the dynamic even played out there - the “assistant instructor” was a gruff, bullish master chief who’d been in the shit in Vietnam and had joined the Navy to stay out of jail, whereas the head instructor was a kindly, approachable submarine captain who dispensed sage advice.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2265 "2025-01-04T21:32:27Z")

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A retired chief I know says his kids soon learned that he responded quicker to calls of “Chief!” than to calls of “Dad!”

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**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2266 "2025-01-05T07:45:01Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Holy shit, my ex-fiancee was a nurse there decades ago.

🫢  
Holy shit, I’m 99% sure this guy worked for our pathology group for a few months this past summer as a temp (traveler) PA.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2267 "2025-01-05T15:18:31Z")

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Sounds like maybe you ought to audit your sample freezers to ensure the stuff your computer says is archived in drawer 43 is still in there. 😉

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2268 "2025-01-05T15:35:35Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> The thing that sticks out there: “dried toes”
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> I mean, sure, I can imagine a market for
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> > [@Railer13](#):
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> > human heart, slices of liver, brain, and kidneys, a spleen, a foot, intestine pieces, a testicle,… skin…
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> But a jar of dried toes?
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> I mean, what are you going to do with dried toes?

“What are you in for?”

“Interstate trafficking in dried toes…”

(cons sidle away in disgust)

“…and a human heart and testicle.”

(cons return, slap Pereyra on the back, congratulate him)

> [@Pazu](#):
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> Holy shit, I’m 99% sure this guy worked for our pathology group for a few months this past summer as a temp (traveler) PA.

You’d think that the employee with the enviable job of disposing of surgical specimens after they’re no longer needed would’ve wondered about the empty jars and buckets.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2269 "2025-01-07T17:13:37Z")

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Seen in the Stupid MF’s thread, but this is evil:

> [@Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3460):
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> A group of Assumption University students are facing charges for kidnapping and beating soldier after luring him to campus using [Tinder](https://www.the-independent.com/topic/tinder) in a [TikTok](https://www.the-independent.com/topic/tiktok) trend-inspired attack, emulating the TV series To Catch a [Predator](https://www.the-independent.com/topic/predator). Kelsy Brainard, 18, a student of the $70,000-per-year Roman Catholic institution in Worcester, [Massachusetts](https://www.the-independent.com/topic/massachusetts), allegedly invited the 22-year-old man to visit her at 10.30 p.m. on October 1 so they could “try and hook up,” police said… Upon arriving at the campus, a “mob” of up to 3…

As I said elsewhere, a “trend” like that is going to get someone killed.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2270 "2025-01-07T17:22:27Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “What are you in for?”
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> “Interstate trafficking in dried toes…”
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> (cons sidle away in disgust)
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> “…and a human heart and testicle.”
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> (cons return, slap Pereyra on the back, congratulate him)

🤣 🤣 🤣  
Thunderous Applause!

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2271 "2025-01-07T17:26:06Z")

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Seriously, I probably don’t want to know, but what could the motivation possibly be for the buyer? Presumably these are all preserved, so it can’t be cannibalism. I can’t imagine you could commit necrophilia with an assortment of detached bits. Is there some even grosser possibility I’m not thinking of??

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2272 "2025-01-07T17:59:55Z")

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They look nice lined up on your coffee table as a conversation piece?

Hmm. I’m sort outta ideas too.

Is there some voodoo or similar BS where a dried toe, or portion thereof is an important ingredient in the witches brew along with eye of newt and wing of bat? Perhaps, like rhino horn, toes represent a perpetually erect form of phallic interest. Such that all truly effective folk aphrodisiacs need some toe to work properly?

All the above is pure speculation without research.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2273 "2025-01-07T18:26:01Z")

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There’s a market.

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon… with nail polish.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2274 "2025-01-07T18:29:44Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> There’s a market.
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> Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o’clock this afternoon… with nail polish. -

Can I specify polish color or is it potluck?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2275 "2025-01-07T18:36:15Z")

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This might be taking _Big Lebowski_ cosplay a little too far.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2276 "2025-01-07T18:39:28Z")

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_My old flame  
I can’t even think of her name_  
_(I’ll have to look through my collection of human heads)_

- Spike Jones

> [@](#):
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> The collecting of human body parts has been found to occur throughout history, often to prove one’s dominance over another. Even in the Bible’s Old Testament, King Saul asked for one hundred Philistine foreskins to be brought to him by David as bride price for his daughter… “People outside of the community often see what we do as maybe a little disturbing,” Debbie Reynders, a Belgian collector and trader who runs an Instagram account of almost 4,000 followers, told _Wired_ . “But the people who collect and trade are really genuine people, open and lovely. But a bit guarded. Especially to journalists.”

> **[What on Earth Would Make People Want to Collect Human Remains?](https://www.newsweek.com/collecting-body-parts-trophies-online-facebook-1737390)**
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> The news of a Pennsylvania man buying human brains and skin on Facebook has brought the centuries-old practice human body part collection into the spotlight.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2277 "2025-01-07T18:53:36Z")

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OK, that guy definitely looks like someone who collects human body parts.

I love this helpful quote from the psychologist interviewed for the Newsweek article:

> Someone actively seeking to collect and store body parts in particular is likely to have some deeper psychological issues at play, however, according to Surtees.

Ya THINK?

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2278 "2025-01-07T19:42:38Z")

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That’s what you call expert analysis.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2279 "2025-01-07T20:21:34Z")

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Facebook, which just named to its board of directors a man caught on video beating his wife, has decided that calling gay people mentally ill is now A-OK with them.

> **[Meta Now Lets Users Say Gay and Trans People Have ‘Mental Illness’](https://www.wired.com/story/meta-immigration-gender-policies-change/)**
>
> Meta rolled out a number of changes to its “Hateful Conduct” policy Tuesday as part of a sweeping overhaul of its approach toward content moderation.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2280 "2025-01-07T20:44:10Z")

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And the backward slide continues. Another reason to abandon Meta products.

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