# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/221 "2023-08-20T14:47:36Z")

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Yes. Once a SovCit buys into the idea that government is just a mafia or a con, their right to shoot DMV clerks is fully enshrined in their mind just as it was in New Texas. And they can and will act on their deluded ideas. Not many as a percentage, but when enough nutters are running around, it only takes a few to create tragedy.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/222 "2023-08-20T20:10:56Z")

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The author was H. Beam Piper and the book is _Lone Star Planet_. For me Piper ranks up there in the top five sci-fi authors. I have three favorite short stories and one of his is one of them. It’s _He Walked Around the Horses_. The other two are _The Man Who Traveled in Elephants_. bu Heinlein, and a story by Spider Robinson, _True Minds_.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/223 "2023-08-21T13:02:25Z")

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Make Italy Great Again? [Same-sex parents are losing their rights and it’s the same bigoted nonsense happening in the USA.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/21/orphaned-by-decree-italy-same-sex-parents-react-losing-rights) I guess everyone is trying the MAGA formula for quick political growth with no guardrails.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/224 "2023-08-25T12:48:15Z")

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[Woman charged in fatal shove of vocal coach.](https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/23/us/lauren-pazienza-pleads-guilty-vocal-coach-barbara-gustern/index.html) As the article indicates, she knew she’d done something wrong and immediately tried to scrub her history and leave the area. It’s the random violence that makes me despair sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/225 "2023-08-25T21:33:04Z")

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Apparently she didn’t just shove someone out of her way because she was impatient or something, she crossed the street, shouted obscenities at the vocal coach (an 87-year-old woman) before shoving her to the ground where she hit her head. So it doesn’t sound like random violence, even though no motive has been revealed. She pleaded guilty to first degree manslaughter, which sounds like a plea deal down from something like 2nd degree murder.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/226 "2023-08-25T21:38:21Z")

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You’re right. I called it “random” because there didn’t seem to be any motive to the crime or connection between the victim and perpetrator. Maybe that’s not accurate.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/227 "2023-08-25T22:01:29Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> You’re right. I called it “random” because there didn’t seem to be any motive to the crime or connection between the victim and perpetrator.

This AP article has a little bit of info, and we can at least speculate:

> **[Woman pleads guilty to fatally shoving Broadway singing coach, age 87,...](https://apnews.com/article/lauren-pazienza-barbara-maier-gustern-singing-coach-69636807f4ee0f2124eab7d5e29762e0)**
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> A woman who killed an 87-year-old Broadway singing coach by shoving her onto a Manhattan sidewalk has avoided a lengthy prison sentence.

> Pazienza, who’d had several glasses of wine earlier while celebrating a milestone in her wedding countdown, was upset because the park in Manhattan’s Chelsea neighborhood was closing and she and her fiance were told to leave, prosecutors said.

> In an interview with police, Pazienza’s fiance said she told him about the episode and said Gustern “might have said something” to her, although she wasn’t sure.

So to me it sounds like a combination of alcohol consumption, being in an extremely shitty mood because she was kicked out of a park, and the old lady being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Basically, Bridezilla run amok.

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**Author:** ![allenv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@allenv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/allenv)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/228 "2023-08-25T22:45:17Z")

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The author was H. Beam Piper, I think the story was Lone Star Planet.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/229 "2023-08-25T22:47:43Z")

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> **[A Planet for Texans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Planet_for_Texans)**
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> A Planet for Texans (also published as Lone Star Planet) is a science-fiction novel written by Henry Beam Piper and John Joseph McGuire. It was first published in the March 1957 issue of Fantastic Universe as Lone Star Planet and first published in book form in Ace Double D-299 in 1958. The story originated in a suggestion by H. L. Mencken and presents a world on which the assassination of politicians is accepted practice. It eventually won a Prometheus Hall of Fame Award in 1999.
> After writin...

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/230 "2023-08-26T01:48:26Z")

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Now that Bronny James on-court cardiac arrest has been linked to a congenital heart defect, regret and embarrassment will undoubtedly cause Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo, Elon Musk and the horde of antivaxers who jumped on the story to blame Covid vaccination to apologize, especially to the James family.

Sure they will.

> **[Bronny James’ cardiac arrest caused by congenital heart defect](https://nypost.com/2023/08/25/bronny-james-cardiac-arrest-caused-by-congenital-heart-defect/)**
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> There’s an update on the status of Bronny James — LeBron’s son — who had a bout with cardiac arrest in late July.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/231 "2023-08-26T03:39:48Z")

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Nah, they’ve got it covered; the vaccine exacerbates heart conditions, yeah, thats the ticket!

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/232 "2023-08-26T06:14:52Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> the horde of antivaxers who jumped on the story to blame Covid vaccination

‘In the presence of a 5G signal the graphene oxide in the vaccine can send mRNA backwards in time to alter you’re genome before you were borned!’

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/233 "2023-08-26T12:33:27Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> ‘In the presence of a 5G signal the graphene oxide in the vaccine can send mRNA backwards in time to alter you’re genome before you were borned!’

Asking for a friend. Is it enough to just have a 5G phone or do I need to live close to a 5G tower? If this is my big chance to finally be 6 foot 3 and weigh 215 pounds, I’m intrigued.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/234 "2023-08-26T13:57:58Z")

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The terrific thing about 5G is that [it actually _causes_ Covid-19](https://www.wired.co.uk/article/5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory).

Just stand under a 5G tower and you’ll catch a big-time case of Covid, giving you Natural Immunity for life!

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/235 "2023-08-26T13:59:19Z")

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So Biden’s plan to extend wi-fi everywhere is also going to expand COVID immunity? Genius!

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/236 "2023-08-26T18:40:17Z")

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Some twitterer says if its congenital, that means LeBron had to have had it too. Thats not correct, right?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/237 "2023-08-26T18:43:18Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> congenital

Isn’t that a fancy word for a dildo?

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/238 "2023-08-26T18:43:36Z")

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Congenital = born with it.  
Hereditary = genetic.

Not the same.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/239 "2023-08-26T18:45:01Z")

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They’re desperate to believe that! Weird. I thought anyone could be born with a congenital problem( I was) but its not inherited.  
Why can’t they figure that out?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/240 "2023-08-26T18:45:50Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Why can’t they figure that out?

People are dumb.

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