# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 121
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2401 "2025-02-02T00:43:48Z")
Very much so. Seems like only something could dream up for a story but it is real life. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2402 "2025-02-02T01:34:17Z")
It does not help that the structure of the narrative is so scattershot, jumping all over the place like an epileptic grasshopper on ritalin. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2403 "2025-02-02T10:23:25Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > And yes, the whole family voted for Trump. Good. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2404 "2025-02-02T10:51:55Z")
Also, I tried to forward that link to someone and it was paywalled. Does anyone have a free link? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2405 "2025-02-02T14:39:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Youngblut and Snyder and the people with whom they associated are linked, prosecutors and police say, to five deaths across the country in the last three years. > > And the cases seem to have ties to a vegan extremist movement whose leader goes by “Ziz” and was reported dead in 2022. > [@TokyoBayer](#): > > I’m confused. There are _extreme_ vegan movements? > > I kid, I kid. Next up: vegan anarchist sovereign citizens. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2406 "2025-02-02T15:36:00Z")
Seattle Times is a solid paywall but I thought the Spokesman allowed a couple free views, including the Time articles they carry. I’m a Spokesman subscriber but don’t see a way to do a gift link like NYTimes. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2407 "2025-02-02T16:03:59Z")
Arguably there’s competition between evil and stupid here. > **[Boy dies in explosion of hyperbaric chamber at Troy medical facility](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2025/01/31/boy-dies-explosion-hyperbaric-chamber-troy-medical-facility/78085783007/)** > > Police said the explosion happened just before 8 a.m. Friday. This facility promotes hyperbaric oxygen therapy to treat dozens of conditions, including pain, Alzheimer’s, spider bite, cancer, macular degeneration, crush injury, interstitial cystitis, steatohepatitis, hyperlipidemia, [you name it](https://theoxfordcenter.com/therapies/hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy/?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADK0icCRe7iC9psko4ruF0KYdBYhO&gclid=CjwKCAiAzPy8BhBoEiwAbnM9O8kStPQvhaBpXRMPdcnJTO9Yt3Qlj1PLWf4cHUBQIJdv5sukQ7upSBoCOz4QAvD_BwE). HBOT has a few legitimate uses, including for treating the bends, carbon monoxide poisoning, diabetic foot ulcers and some burn cases. The reason for this child undergoing HBOT hasn’t been revealed and may not be known until a lawsuit is filed (parents have hired the Fieger law firm). Note however that HBOT has been touted without valid evidence as a treatment for autism and [alleged vaccine injury](https://desmoineshyperbarics.com/vaccine-injury).\* [More on the Michigan tragedy](https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2025/02/02/hyperbaric-oxygen-treatment-can-kill/). \*it shouldn’t surprise anyone that this Iowa clinic is operated by a pair of chiropractors, one of whom promotes her experience with infants, toddlers and pregnant women. They also sell HBOT chambers for home use (one goes for $7495, plus a $500 delivery charge). What could go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2408 "2025-02-02T16:10:59Z")
> **[Identity thief whose deception led to his victim’s incarceration sentenced to...](https://www.fox6now.com/news/wisconsin-identity-theft-federal-prison)** > > For decades, the Wisconsin man assumed the identity of another man so convincingly that his victim was forcibly medicated and jailed for identity theft himself. > An information technology expert who for decades assumed the identity of another man so convincingly that his victim was forcibly medicated and jailed At least the investigator actually put in some legwork: > a detective tracked down the biological father listed on Woods’ birth certificate and tested his DNA to confirm that Woods was his son ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2409 "2025-02-02T17:39:31Z")
I keep getting this thread confused with a “Tell me about a wild ass movie you just watched” thread. As a species, we are one fucked up group. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2410 "2025-02-03T01:56:24Z")
It says that Kierans was working at an Iowa hospital using the name Woods, earning $100K a year. He did not really take anything from Woods, other than his name, but somehow he managed to live a more comfortable life under that name. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2411 "2025-02-03T02:18:15Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > He did not really take anything from Woods, other than his name, but somehow he managed to live a more comfortable life under that name. Is that what you took from the article? > Over the years, Keirans married and had a child, all as Woods. He worked at the University of Iowa Hospital and used Woods’ ID to secure credit union loans in Iowa totaling more than $200,000, prosecutors said. He used someone else’s identify to secure loans, more than $200,000. He might never have been able to do that using his real identify since he had stolen a car and somehow got out of custody and fled after his arrest. I think he took more than his name, he took his whole life. That identity let him shed his criminal past and forced his victim to become a criminal just in the course of trying to prove his innocence. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2412 "2025-02-03T02:32:14Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > forced his victim to become a criminal Except, he very well might never have found out about the identity theft, were it not for the youtuber, and he could have handled the situation more carefully without having to be taken into custody. He was not “forced” to become a criminal, and the authorities might have put more effort into examining the information. A lot of people dropped the ball in this case, mostly because the victim seemed a bit like a bum and the thief seemed to be living a decent life, so society will naturally favor the more fortunate. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2413 "2025-02-03T02:40:22Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > He was not “forced” to become a criminal, and the authorities might have put more effort into examining the information. A lot of people dropped the ball in this case, mostly because the victim seemed a bit like a bum and the thief seemed to be living a decent life, so society will naturally favor the more fortunate. That absolutely seems to be the case; that authorities were prejudiced against him because of his appearance. Who knew that kind of thing could happen? (It occurs to me this would probably have been better-placed in the “miscarriage of justice” Pit thread.) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2414 "2025-02-04T04:36:48Z")
> **[MAGA host says men need to find women who don't ‘need to be smacked around’](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/andrew-klavan-maga-women-comments-b2691388.html)** > > Daily Wire host Andrew Klavan also said that ‘a lot of the women’ who end up hospitalized because of domestic violence ‘threw the first punch,’ calling it ‘the law of the jungle.’ He has a name that reminds me of a group of hooded bigots. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2415 "2025-02-04T07:27:41Z")
I can think of a man who needs to be smacked around. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2416 "2025-02-04T15:11:10Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > How many dead babies is too many?([Hospital bosses ignored months of doctors’ warnings about Lucy Letby - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66120934)) These hospital executives are, IMHO and if this reporting is accurate, complicit in this (serial?) killer getting away with it for so long. > **[‘No medical evidence’ to support Lucy Letby’s conviction, expert panel finds](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/feb/04/no-medical-evidence-to-support-lucy-letby-conviction-expert-panel-finds)** > > Babies former nurse was convicted of killing were victims of ‘bad medical care’ or died of natural causes, panel says ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2417 "2025-02-04T16:14:49Z")
There’s been a ton of back-and-forth lately between Letby defenders and supporters of the prosecution’s case. How accurate the “expert panel”'s findings are will be subject to more debate. > [@](#): > > Dr Lee told reporters he conferred with [Letby’s legal team](https://www.the-independent.com/topic/lucy-letby) to assess whether the 35,000 pages of medical evidence was “faulty or good”. 🤔 > **[Lucy Letby: What is the 'new medical evidence’ experts say challenges her...](https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk/home-news/lucy-letby-evidence-appeal-case-shoo-lee-b2691843.html)** > > An expert panel claims it has found 'no murders' in Lucy Letby case ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2418 "2025-02-05T08:13:59Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Next up: vegan anarchist sovereign citizens Vegan anarchist death metal bands? I bring you [Cattle Decapitation.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_Decapitation) (Small print: vegetarian, not strictly vegan. Some of the band are vegan) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2419 "2025-02-05T17:51:51Z")
…who are absolutely fucking incredible… Back to thread… ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2420 "2025-02-06T10:59:22Z")
Belle Gibson claimed she had cancer, and raked in the donation dough while promoting her own “alternative health” methods. Thankfully she’s been charged, but not before inspiring copycats as well as her admittedly fascinating-sounding Netflix series. > **[Apple Cider Vinegar: How Instagram wellness guru Belle Gibson faked cancer –...](https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20250204-apple-cider-vinegar-how-instagram-wellness-guru-belle-gibson-faked-cancer)** > > New Netflix series Apple Cider Vinegar tells the story of an influencer who lied about having a terminal illness to promote alternative therapies. A decade on, it remains a warning. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=120) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=122)