# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2541 "2025-02-26T09:23:26Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Then we might have had something!

Food poisoning?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2542 "2025-02-26T10:12:34Z")

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Yeah, why do we deny bacteria their right to become pandemics?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2543 "2025-02-26T10:43:51Z")

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I’ll help them dig the holes. Of course, once they’re inside you can’t have these unsightly dirt mounds everywhere, and there’s a convenient place to put it right here…

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2544 "2025-02-26T11:28:39Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Meanwhile in the “We have successfully created the Torment Nexus from the hit novel ‘_Don’t Create The Torment Nexus_’” file, some tech bro must’ve just watched Fallout and decided that the Vault project is a great idea that we should totally do.

Not really new - I’ve been hearing about these sorts of things for about 20 years now.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2545 "2025-02-26T11:44:11Z")

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No, I was saying that the side of Puget Sound was the vast majority of the state. I was referring to by population, because that should be the only metric that matters.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2546 "2025-02-26T12:24:27Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> > [@DesertDog](#):
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> > Actually, so do I. I want them to live for _months_ wondering if or when the brownshirts are going to come and take their abuela away
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> I’ve lived life as an illegal immigrant. Granted, I am white, so it was easy for me. But fuck me sideways, do you really want people to live in fear, or is this just hyperbole?

Have I lost track of the narrative here? Isn’t the _abuela_ from Puerto Rico and thus a native born citizen?

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2547 "2025-02-26T12:28:37Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Shane Jett (no relation to Joan, I hope) is the one you want to be mad at.

To be fair, he does seem rather black-hearted.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2548 "2025-02-26T14:07:35Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Have I lost track of the narrative here? Isn’t the _abuela_ from Puerto Rico and thus a native born citizen?

The issue has been raised, though, that like most native citizens, Puerto Ricans (and for that matter old-family Chicanos and even Native Americans) don’t go around prepared to produce “your papers, please!” on demand. And there have been incidents of agencies or just random asshats harassing citizens for just looking or sounding “wrong.”

Meanwhile FWIW there was a supposed situation with Puerto Rican citizens where the narrative is now being questioned but which sounded plausible enough for a number of media outlets:

> **[What We Know About Reports That Puerto Rican Family Was Detained After...](https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/01/30/puerto-rico-family-detained-spanish/)**
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> The rumor circulated at the same time as reports of ICE raids in Puerto Rican and Dominican communities in New Jersey.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2549 "2025-02-26T14:11:04Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Have I lost track of the narrative here? Isn’t the _abuela_ from Puerto Rico and thus a native born citizen?

Yes, she’s a native-born US citizen from Puerto Rico. And as far as I know she’s not a grandmother despite her advanced age so I’m not sure _abuela_ is the correct term for her.

> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> The issue has been raised, though, that like most native citizens, Puerto Ricans (and for that matter old-family Chicanos and even Native Americans) don’t go around prepared to produce “your papers, please!” on demand. And there have been incidents of agencies or just random asshats harassing citizens for just looking or sounding “wrong.”

^ This.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2550 "2025-02-26T14:14:07Z")

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10 Are they an illegal?  
20 Do they speak Spanish?  
30 END PROGRAM

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2551 "2025-02-26T16:00:34Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> The issue has been raised, though, that like most native citizens, Puerto Ricans (and for that matter old-family Chicanos and even Native Americans) don’t go around prepared to produce “your papers, please!” on demand. And there have been incidents of agencies or just random asshats harassing citizens for just looking or sounding “wrong.”

During the Civil War era, and I think before also, weren’t there cases of Black people being assumed to be escaped slaves unless they could produce papers proving that they had been freed?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2552 "2025-02-26T16:12:20Z")

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Yes,

> **[Slavery and Emancipation in the Nation's Capital](https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2010/spring/dcslavery.html)**
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> Using Federal Records to Explore the Lives of African American Ancestors Spring 2010, Vol. 42, No. 1 | Genealogy Notes By Damani Davis Enlarge A woman being held in a Washington, D.C., prison.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2553 "2025-02-26T16:14:15Z")

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Seems more Wool than Fallout to me.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2554 "2025-02-26T17:02:39Z")

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Huh, I thought the dangers inherent in overuse of antibiotics in food production were well known? I guess not?

> **[Stop using antibiotics in healthy animals to preserve their effectiveness](https://www.who.int/news/item/07-11-2017-stop-using-antibiotics-in-healthy-animals-to-prevent-the-spread-of-antibiotic-resistance)**
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> WHO is recommending that farmers and the food industry stop using antibiotics routinely to promote growth and prevent disease in healthy animals.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2555 "2025-02-26T17:16:41Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Huh, I thought the dangers inherent in overuse of antibiotics in food production were well known? I guess not?

No, you’re right. What’s also true is that, I’m pretty certain, RFK defines “overuse” as any use.  
Can’t have chickens with the 'tism!

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2556 "2025-02-27T05:25:27Z")

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> **[Teen 'serial killer' responsible for 6 killings on Chicago's Southwest Side...](https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2025/02/26/teen-serial-killer-6-killings-chicago-southwest-side-2020)**
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> Cook County State's Attorney Eileen O'Neill Burke said Antonio Reyes didn't know any of the victims, including a 31-year-old man who was gunned down while taking his three young children to buy a puppy.

He did all these killings when he was 16 or 17 years old.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2557 "2025-02-27T15:20:00Z")

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Well, shit. I’m sure he’ll be very happy here.  
[Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate have left Romania for US, Romanian official says | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/romania-andrew-tate-us-04749679b90fad821c2b945955f5b145)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2558 "2025-02-27T21:12:57Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I was referring to by population, because that should be the only metric that matters.

The region I worked in previously at my agency was only King County, and that’s it. Yet it was so much bigger in terms of population than any other region that it’s hard to believe. My new region is 4 counties (including Pierce and Kitsap) and it’s still not even close.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2559 "2025-02-27T23:13:31Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The mayor of Seattle (who is a right bastard for the way he’s been stonewalling light rail expansion, but that’s another topic) has been hiding the fact that in 1996 he was arrested at a casino in Iowa for brandishing a handgun during an argument over a parking space.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Though I don’t think this raises to the level of “evil”.

Ok, now can I call him evil?

> **[Speaking to Downtown Business Group, Harrell Calls Musk, Thiel, and Other...](https://publicola.com/2025/02/27/speaking-to-downtown-business-group-harrell-calls-musk-thiel-and-other-trump-tech-advisors-some-of-the-smartest-innovators-around/)**
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> By Erica C. Barnett During his remarks at the Downtown Seattle Association’s State of Downtown event on Tuesday, Mayor Bruce…

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> “We know that our current president surrounds himself by some of the smartest innovators around,” Harrell said. “When we drop names like [Marc] Andreessen or Peter Thiel or David Sacks or Elon Musk—these are smart innovators.”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2560 "2025-02-27T23:15:19Z")

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Definitely dumb or maybe a bit crazy. Was he just trying to suck up to right-leaning business folks? Either way, really bad move in that town.

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