# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2621 "2025-03-07T13:20:22Z")

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We really need to keep partisan red team / blue team politics out of this thread.

Surely there is some evil in teh last 24 hours that is not just political sparring that we can marvel at?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2622 "2025-03-07T15:18:58Z")

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Very well. How about some good old all-American naked crazy at the airport?

> **[Naked passenger forces flight to Phoenix back to gate](https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/woman-strips-naked-on-flight-to-phoenix-passengers-said-she-demanded-to-get-off-the-plane/75-043e606e-b0c5-4ae1-8b8d-17a1bc820126)**
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> A Southwest Flight from Houston to Phoenix didn't make it very far when video shows the moments a woman completely undressed and started screaming

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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Amazon’s AI says Mein Kampf is “a true work of art” and that readers “appreciate the insightful and intelligent rants”.

> **[Google and Amazon AI Say Hitler’s Mein Kampf Is ‘a True Work of Art’](https://www.404media.co/google-amazon-ai-search-mein-kampf-reviews/)**
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> An example of AI attempting to summarizing nuanced reviewed of Hitler's Nazi manifesto turned into an example of algorithms eating themselves.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Very well. How about some good old all-American naked crazy at the airport?

I couldn’t read the whole thing due to ad blocking. But assuming the woman was just crazy / drugged out, rather than trying to perform an evil act like hijacking or plane-crashing, that probably is more stupid MF than evil MF.

But thanks for trying. Seriously, not snarkily.

  

As to _Mein Kampf_, I can hardly wait for the era (maybe next year) when half the content on the internet is AI-generated and then the AI’s start feeding on each others’ lousy output.

It’ll be coprophages all the way down.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2625 "2025-03-07T16:22:12Z")

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In fairness, that _could_ be Southwest’s version of an in-flight movie.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2626 "2025-03-07T16:32:33Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I can hardly wait for the era (maybe next year) when half the content on the internet is AI-generated and then the AI’s start feeding on each others’ lousy output.

I’m afraid that’s already started happening.

> **[Dead Internet theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory)**
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> The dead Internet theory is a conspiracy theory that asserts, due to a coordinated and intentional effort, the Internet now consists mainly of bot activity and automatically generated content manipulated by algorithmic curation to control the population and minimize organic human activity. Proponents of the theory believe these social bots were created intentionally to help manipulate algorithms and boost search results in order to manipulate consumers. Some proponents of the The dead Internet ...

Here’s a pretty good video that documents some examples of places on social media that have just degenerated into bots talking at each other and regurgitating their prompts.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/U7r584zPK9A/hqdefault.jpg "Dead Internet Theory") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7r584zPK9A)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2627 "2025-03-07T17:04:43Z")

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Great! Thank you.

There’s also this from a few years ago: **[xkcd - Facebook of the Dead](https://what-if.xkcd.com/69/)**. It’s a dozen years old now so reads a bit quaint. But the idea is legit.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
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> [@Miller](#):
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> Right, you can’t fight someone if you refuse to be in the same room with them. One of the reasons Democratic messaging is failing is because half the country just doesn’t hear it. They listen to right-wing sources exclusively, and everything is filtered through that. If we want to break the media siloing, this is how it’s got to be done. We need to go on their shows. We need to bring them on our shows. We need to get them to hear what we have to say, from _our_ people, not distorted by their media mouthpieces.

A perfect example of that is Pete Buttigieg. He’s gone on Fox, faced hostile interviewers, and tied them up in knots. With an easy manner and a smile.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
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> [@Babale](#):
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> I certainly wouldn’t tell people who are uncomfortable with or scared of talking to right wingers that they need to do so themselves. But _someone_ on our side has to, or we cede anyone in the right wing bubble, forever.

The median Doper would struggle to have a meaningful conversation with a centrist, let alone an actual right-winger. Best start with more modest ambitions

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> The median Doper would struggle to have a meaningful conversation with a centrist

I disagree.

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> [@Miller](#):
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> We need to go on their shows. We need to bring them on our shows.

First one meets your criteria (reach folks who aren’t hearing the message) because right-wing folks are already watching/listening to those shows.

Second does not much, unless you suppose that a significant portion of the right wing would follow one of their pundits onto a left-wing show of any kind. I don’t.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2632 "2025-03-08T04:16:48Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Is it still cynical if it’s the smart thing to do?

Of course. Cynicism is usually smarter. Not necessarily principled (it can be), but smarter.

Tom Hagen: “I always thought it would have been Clemenza, not Tessio”.

Michael Corleone: “It’s the smart move. Tessio was always smarter.”

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2633 "2025-03-08T10:04:02Z")

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Have you had conversations with centrists on whether transwomen are men or women, and on who ought to be in women’s sport and if it’s okay to give kids cross-sex hormones?

How did that go?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2634 "2025-03-08T13:05:28Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [Trump plans to revoke legal status of Ukrainians who fled to US](https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-trump-plans-revoke-legal-111130604.html)
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> Right. Send innocent women and children into a war zone, where they no longer have houses. It’s the Christian thing to do!

You know very well that all Trump would say to that is that they shouldn’t have forced Putin to start the war. 🙄

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> if it’s okay to give kids cross-sex hormones?

What is the ‘’‘centrist’‘’ position on interfering with the medical treatment of strangers?

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I couldn’t read the whole thing due to ad blocking. But assuming the woman was just crazy / drugged out, rather than trying to perform an evil act like hijacking or plane-crashing, that probably is more stupid MF than evil MF.

Her trying to get into the cockpit is somewhat disturbing.

Almost as disturbing as the TV reporter being named Chase Golightly.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Almost as disturbing as the TV reporter being named Chase Golightly. -

Does he bear any resemblance to George Peppard?

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
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Most people in the US think this form of medicine is unreliable enough to be [worthy of a straight-up ban](https://news.gallup.com/poll/645704/slim-majority-adults-say-changing-gender-morally-wrong.aspx). In the UK, where they had an actual scientific review about it (which I note upthread the progressive side of politics is still talking smack about 🙄) the number favouring a ban for children is [between 75% and 87%](https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51545-where-does-the-british-public-stand-on-transgender-rights-in-202425).

So yes, this is the centrist position. “Gender medicine works” and “a person can be actually a woman despite having a male body” are minority positions.

If you were talking to a centrist on this issue, would you be able to have the intellectual humility to admit that you are the one with the minority opinion, and it is possible that they are the ones who are right, not you?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> The median Doper would struggle to have a meaningful conversation with a centrist, let alone an actual right-winger. Best start with more modest ambitions

“Don’t have a stroke when Gavin does it” would be a good start.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Second does not much, unless you suppose that a significant portion of the right wing would follow one of their pundits onto a left-wing show of any kind. I don’t.

I mean, you can go look up the comments to Left leaning shows that did have right wingers on, and they tend to have plenty of comments from fans of the right wing audience. So I don’t think you are correct.

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