# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
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It just weakens it to a great degree.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2762 "2025-03-17T10:21:58Z")

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He could also prohibit any programs to commemorate Juneteenth, what it stands for and what it represents. That would effectively neuter the holiday without eliminating it.

Though perhaps I shouldn’t give them any ideas.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2763 "2025-03-17T11:58:27Z")

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So, what other webpages on the DoD site have been delisted as DEI?

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2764 "2025-03-17T12:14:03Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> That would effectively neuter the holiday without eliminating it.

It existed before the Orange Menace took office, it will exist after the worms have had their chance at him.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2765 "2025-03-17T12:14:12Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> A declaration of what? You can’t defund a day on the calendar.

Trump simply declaring that they’re no longer holidays, or even randomly dropping “we’re looking at getting rid of these woke ‘holidays’” into an unrelated speech, would be all anyone would talk about for days. Whether he wants chaos for chaos’ sake or to act as a distraction, I don’t know, but saying he’s going to do something that he can’t or won’t do and probably never had any actual plans for, is right in his wheel house. It seems to be one of the only wheels in there.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2766 "2025-03-17T14:26:56Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> It’s been quite a long time since I went looking for really weird porn. Perhaps I should take up the hobby again.

I assume you’re familiar with the “dragons having sex with cars” genre?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2767 "2025-03-17T15:55:20Z")

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> [@Zoobi](#):
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> The erasure of Black American history is happening before our eyes.

I was not familiar with the man, so I looked him up. Wikipedia has a pretty informative article.

> **[Charles Calvin Rogers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Calvin_Rogers)**
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> Charles Calvin Rogers (September 6, 1929 – September 21, 1990) was a recipient of the highest military decoration in the United States, the Medal of Honor, for his actions during the Vietnam War. A lieutenant colonel at the time, he became the highest-ranking Black soldier in the U.S. military to receive this honor. A career officer who entered the service as a second lieutenant commissioned by ROTC when the military was still racially segregated, he retired after 32 years in the United Sta Cha...

He was wounded multiple times in the Vietnam War (including a rocket explosion that flung him in the air and basically destroyed the back of his leg), but even while wounded he rallied troops to protect a fire support base, risking his life in the process. He was awarded the Medal of Honor by Richard Nixon (not a Democrat as I suspected). Even after getting the medal he wanted to go **back** to the war to continue fighting. He stayed in the military and continued to be promoted, eventually retiring as a Major General. After retirement he became a Baptist minister and served US troops in Germany as a civilian. He died of cancer at age 61.

I see nothing in his history of anything controversial, he was essentially everything that right wing propaganda would say an American should be. I don’t even think being Black would be enough for any but the most rabid alt-right folks to dislike him; I’m sure even racists on the right might consider him “one of the good ones”. My speculation is that his biographical page was being referenced or linked to as part of some kind of diversity training or web site (as an example of how someone of color can achieve greatness in the military), and that his web page got caught by whatever bots they have scrubbing DEI stuff from government sites.

Not to use that as an excuse, it just goes to show how stupid these efforts are.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> I assume you’re familiar with the “dragons having sex with cars” genre?

The day I found this existed was the day I _truly_ understood just how weird humanity was.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2769 "2025-03-17T16:53:44Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I see nothing in his history of anything controversial, he was essentially everything that right wing propaganda would say an American should be.

Except white. None of ‘those people’ ever accomplished anything on their own.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2770 "2025-03-17T17:16:38Z")

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I couldn’t readily find a list of all Medal of Honor recipients on the Defense Department website. Charles C. Rogers [still has a profile](https://www.defense.gov/News/Feature-Stories/Story/Article/2824721/medal-of-honor-monday-army-maj-gen-charles-calvin-rogers/) up on the site.

Rogers also is cited on [the Army’s list](https://www.army.mil/medalofhonor/citations26.html#R) of Medal of Honor winners.

Whether the DEI-chasers just haven’t gotten around to removing these profiles is another matter.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2771 "2025-03-17T17:22:13Z")

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Lessening a footprint can sometimes achieve more in the long run then a total sudden erasure of said footprint, and brings less resistance.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2772 "2025-03-17T17:25:02Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Except white. None of ‘those people’ ever accomplished anything on their own.

If you read my **entire** post (or even the next couple of sentences) I addressed that.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2773 "2025-03-17T17:30:11Z")

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According to the Wikipedia article on Charles C. Rogers, “By March 17, the (DoD) page was restored, with the “deimedal” URL redirecting back to the original link.”

Hope that pressure is kept on for an explanation of why he was DEIactivated in the first place.

Better keep an eye on Rogers’ grave in Arlington National Cemetery to make sure MAGAs don’t dig him up and remove his plaque.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2774 "2025-03-17T17:55:41Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Better keep an eye on Rogers’ grave in Arlington National Cemetery to make sure MAGAs don’t dig him up and remove his plaque.

They’re already [doing their best to mess with Arlington](https://wtop.com/arlington/2025/03/how-dei-rollback-prompted-the-scrubbing-of-arlington-national-cemeterys-website/), so a little grave desecration seems fine.

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2775 "2025-03-17T20:12:56Z")

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[https://www.axios.com/local/salt-lake-city/2025/03/17/navajo-code-talkers-trump-dei-military-websites-wwii](https://www.axios.com/local/salt-lake-city/2025/03/17/navajo-code-talkers-trump-dei-military-websites-wwii)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2776 "2025-03-17T23:28:11Z")

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Amazon Echo users can no longer opt out of Echo recording everything they say so they can use it to train their plagiarism generator.

> **[Everything you say to your Echo will be sent to Amazon starting on March 28](https://www.wired.com/story/everything-you-say-to-your-echo-will-be-sent-to-amazon-starting-march-28/)**
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> Amazon is killing a privacy feature to bolster Alexa+, the new subscription assistant.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2777 "2025-03-17T23:37:48Z")

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That sounds implausible. Not sending everything you say to the servers was never a privacy issue; it was a bandwidth issue. That’s a lot of data to be constantly sending.

And we’ve been over this before, but it’s only a “plagiarism generator” in the same sense that any human is.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2778 "2025-03-17T23:40:53Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> That sounds implausible. Not sending everything you say to the servers was never a privacy issue; it was a bandwidth issue. That’s a lot of data to be constantly sending.

They’re apparently collecting enough data that human employees are personally listening to over 1,000 recordings per shift.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2779 "2025-03-17T23:41:08Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And we’ve been over this before, but it’s only a “plagiarism generator” in the same sense that any human is.

Yes, after reading your post I’m going to start telling everyone that any person is potentially a plagiarism generator.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2780 "2025-03-17T23:49:24Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> but it’s only a “plagiarism generator” in the same sense that any human is.

Humans generating plagiarism is also frowned upon.

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