# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 147
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2921 "2025-04-04T23:44:33Z")
In Florida, to prove assault you have to show the person intentionally threatened to harm to the victim, and had/appeared to have had the ability to do so, not only that the victim felt threatened. If you’re going with the legal term. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2922 "2025-04-04T23:49:57Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > In Florida, to prove assault you have to show the person intentionally threatened to harm to the victim, and had/appeared to have had the ability to do so, not only that the victim felt threatened. I’d say that storming into a women’s restroom while yelling about needing to “protect” people from an innocent woman sounds like intent and ability by any reasonable standard. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2923 "2025-04-04T23:51:12Z")
My point is moreso that this woman was locked in a stall, it’s not like the man was addressing her directly and making threatening movements in her direction. He seemed to be talking to his wife, may not even have noticed anyone else was in the restroom. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2924 "2025-04-05T00:12:45Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > He seemed to be talking to his wife, may not even have noticed anyone else was in the restroom. The whole reason he was in there was because he noticed that someone else was in the restroom. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2925 "2025-04-05T12:10:41Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I feel a little bad for speculating, but even odds between the priest was a kiddie diddler or the shooter was a racist piece of shit he didn’t like an Indian taking an American’s job. > [@Railer13](#): > > Now I don’t feel so bad for thinking the same things, although I’d bet more on the latter than the former. Turns out we’re both wrong. The shooter, who lived in Tulsa, was a native of the area, and had written many letters to the local paper decrying the state of both society and the Catholic religion. You can read a sampling in the linked article. [Man charged in Seneca priest’s death wrote about religion, more to local newspaper](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/man-charged-in-seneca-priest-s-death-wrote-about-religion-more-to-local-newspaper/ar-AA1CkyBr?ocid=BingNewsSerp) ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2926 "2025-04-05T12:39:10Z")
Damn it, I was going to put a third, lower-odds option on “not Catholic enough”. I have Facebook connections with people I was in a Catholic social club with before I became a “weddings and funerals only” person. They seem unlikely to shoot any one, but my response to a recent complaint of Francis supporting ‘socialism’ by noting that the Corporeal Works of Mercy and the Sermon on the Mount are pretty socialist kind of went right by them. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2927 "2025-04-05T12:45:24Z")
Why would you expect the words of Jesus to have any relevance to them? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2928 "2025-04-05T13:06:14Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Eichorn earlier had made the news by co-sponsoring a bill to make Trump Derangement Syndrome a recognized mental illness in Minnesota (har!). I wouldn’t necessarily be opposed such an effort, provided that it’s understood that it applies to everyone who is deranged enough to support the America-hating fuckstick. Matter of fact, the folks who actually decide what goes into the DSM-5 could do worse than to consider it. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2929 "2025-04-05T19:52:21Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > everyone who is deranged enough to support the America-hating fuckstick It is not really a mental illness _per se_. It is more like profound vulnerability to grifting (a general weakness that just about everyone has, but mostly not so profoundly). You might call them, uh, mark-ists. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2930 "2025-04-05T19:54:11Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > My point is moreso that this woman was locked in a stall, it’s not like the man was addressing her directly and making threatening movements in her direction. He seemed to be talking to his wife, may not even have noticed anyone else was in the restroom. First, it is not clear she was locked in a stall. She might have been, or been at the sink finishing up. The article doesn’t say. Second, she claims he insinuated _she_ was transgender. Ergo, he did know she was there. Third, he was not talking to his wife. He was announcing to the room, where the employee was the only occupant other than the man who was yelling. Now I don’t know if it meets the legal definition of assault in Florida, but if it happened in my store I would be asking the man to leave and calling the cops on him if he didn’t. Threatening other customers or staff is not acceptable. > [@Max\_S](#): > > Hourly v. salaried managers is a stupid distinction. Yes, it really is. Corporate has a very mixed-up position of how stores operate versus their “big picture from the corner window” attitude on the roles of various levels of employee. If it was reported to a Team Lead, that person should have passed the information up the chain. Apparently it was since they acted on it against the employee. It’s bullshit, but it’s a great excuse when they want to get rid of a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2931 "2025-04-05T22:13:58Z")
One more for the “It’s never the drag queens” file; a Utah therapist who specialized in helping gay Mormon men “cure” their same-sex attractions has been sentenced to 15 years to life after it was revealed that the therapy he offered just consisted of raping them. > **[Utah Ex-Therapist Scott Owen Sentenced to Prison for Sexually Abusing Patients](https://www.propublica.org/article/scott-owen-utah-therapist-sexual-abuse-prison-sentence?utm_content=bufferea009&utm_medium=social&utm_source=bluesky&utm_campaign=propublica-bsky)** > > Owen’s 15-year-to-life prison term follows a 2023 investigation by The Salt Lake Tribune and ProPublica that uncovered a range of sex abuse allegations against the ex-therapist, who claimed to be a specialist for struggling gay Latter-day Saints men. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2932 "2025-04-07T03:05:24Z")
A megachurch pastor speaking at a convention in Maryland last year ordered the ushers to close the doors and lock the audience in until they “donated” $40,000 to his church. > **[Gospel star Marvin Sapp responds to criticism over donation request, order to...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/2025/03/28/gospel-star-marvin-sapp-backlash-donation-request/82704444007/)** > > After a resurfaced clip went viral on social media, people accused Sapp of holding the congregation hostage to get donations. He says the clip was taken out of context. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2933 "2025-04-07T16:56:36Z")
Oh, this is great stuff. > “Some have taken issue with a particular moment when I instructed the ushers, rather firmly, to close the doors during the offering,” Sapp wrote. “To those unfamiliar with the church context or who may not regularly attend worship gatherings this has been misinterpreted as holding people hostage as well as offensive. That was never my intent.” > > “Movement during this sacred exchange can be distracting and, at times, even risky,” he said. “My directive was not about control it was about creating a safe, focused, and reverent environment for those choosing to give, and for those handling the resources.” ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2934 "2025-04-07T21:26:26Z")
Somebody locks me in a church, they have five seconds to open the doors before I start using a pew as a battering ram. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2935 "2025-04-07T21:29:07Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Somebody locks me in a church, they have five seconds to open the doors before I start using a pew as a battering ram. - Why do you think the pews are bolted down? Better to use the minister/priest. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2936 "2025-04-07T21:35:25Z")
I’d settle for calling both 911 and the fire inspector. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2937 "2025-04-08T01:40:42Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > > “Movement during this sacred exchange can be distracting and, at times, even risky,” he said. “My directive was not about control it was about creating a safe, focused, and reverent environment for those choosing to give, and for those handling the resources.” Well, he’s right. I could imagine a collective panic. “Let’s get the hell out of here before this greedy bastard robs us blind!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2938 "2025-04-08T01:51:21Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > “Movement during this sacred exchange can be distracting and, at times, even risky,” he said. “My directive was not about control it was about creating a safe, focused, and reverent environment for those choosing to give, and for those handling the resources.” I haven’t attended a church service in about 25 years, but I recall them passing a bowl up and down the aisles for people to put their pocket money into. What’s going on in this church that they’re worried about it turning into the Cincinnati Who concert stampede? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2939 "2025-04-08T02:45:50Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I haven’t attended a church service in about 25 years, but I recall them passing a bowl up and down the aisles for people to put their pocket money into. I remember that from when I was little. (I had a secular upbringing, so we only went to church a couple of times when we were visiting relatives.) My wife’s church (which I attend) has a collection box on a table near the entrance. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/2940 "2025-04-08T05:48:43Z")
Remember when the only time we ever heard from JK Rowling was when she’d pop up to declare that a minor character in Harry Potter was secretly gay or that wizards used to shit themselves and then magic away the evidence before the invention of indoor plumbing? Anyway, now she says claiming to be asexual is morally equivalent to segregation (the bad kind, that is, as opposed to segregating trans people which is A-OK in her book.) > **[Turns Out J.K. Rowling Is Mad at More Letters Than Just the “T” in LGBTQIA+](https://www.them.us/story/jk-rowling-international-asexuality-day-tweets-criticism)** > > On International Asexuality Day, Rowling joked she would like to observe “Bored of This Shit Day.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=146) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=148)