# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 158
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3141 "2025-06-12T21:30:11Z")
Quote from the article (Chen was the judge who denied the motion): > “The court cannot shake the impression, after observing and listening to defendant over the course of the two-hour April proceeding, that he feels no remorse about committing the four murders nor empathy for the victims or their families,” Chen wrote. “Defendant’s statements … felt hollow and performative.” I’m actually a little bothered by that, because I after reading about his crimes, I don’t care if he feels remorse now, and has empathy for the victims and their families, he still deserves to die in that cell. If he feels remorse and has empathy, he should channel it towards improving the other lives of other inmates, not try to get released. I’d hope that the judge wouldn’t have released him even if she did believe his statements. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3142 "2025-06-13T02:58:16Z")
Also, I have to wonder if “it seems to me he wasn’t sincere” is any kind of strong reason. It seems pretty weak sauce to me, considering what he did. I’m not any kind of lawyer nor have any experience in judges’ statements about this kind of thing. I would have thought, however, that the reason for denying compassionate release should be more about how stupid and inadequate the reason for asking for it was. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3143 "2025-06-13T12:53:16Z")
When have prison inmates (specifically in N.Y. state, but elsewhere as well) been given compassionate release on the grounds that they’ve supposedly changed into better people? I thought compassionate release was basically confined to people who were elderly, seriously/terminally ill and/or couldn’t get adequate medical treatment in prison. [A-bad-upbringing-made-me-do-it](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nyed.153806/gov.uscourts.nyed.153806.238.0.pdf) might have some relevance in a parole hearing, but not as compassionate release grounds. > [@](#): > > Pappa had several incidents during his childhood where he got into fights with kids who said cruel things to him or his sister, Kristina, about their father. 😥 ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3144 "2025-06-13T18:03:20Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > When have prison inmates (specifically in N.Y. state, but elsewhere as well) been given compassionate release on the grounds that they’ve supposedly changed into better people? > > I thought compassionate release was basically confined to people who were elderly, seriously/terminally ill and/or couldn’t get adequate medical treatment in prison. [A-bad-upbringing-made-me-do-it](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nyed.153806/gov.uscourts.nyed.153806.238.0.pdf) might have some relevance in a parole hearing, but not as compassionate release grounds. I followed the trail to the court filing. It states, as part of the argument, that the courts are no longer bound by the original grounds limitations. The court can can provide comoassionate release for pretty much any reason they find compelling, save that rehabilitation cannot be the sole grounds. His lawyers are arguing he was young and impressionable and got sucked into the lifestyle by father surrogates. They also argue be was sentenced under mandatory minimum laws that have since been overturned. His “remarkable” transformation and rehabilitation are being argued to show that his release would not be a threat to society. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3145 "2025-06-13T21:48:40Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > > Pappa had several incidents during his childhood where he got into fights with kids who said cruel things to him So did I. I never became a murderer. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3146 "2025-06-13T22:02:07Z")
A shame. The board would be a more interesting place. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3147 "2025-06-13T22:08:58Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > So did I. I never became a murderer. I’d think that the only internally consistent position is you are owed, at least, one free murder! Use it wisely… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3148 "2025-06-13T22:41:33Z")
It’s all good. My brother is a violent criminal. I don’t think he ever killed anyone but who knows. He takes up the slack for both of us. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3149 "2025-06-15T20:39:41Z")
I have a family friend on death row for killing a police officer. That’s as close as I’m getting to violent crime. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3150 "2025-06-17T05:56:13Z")
_ **TRIGGER WARNING! this post concerns an incident of extreme animal abuse.** _ [A man in Pennsylvania cut off a dog’s leg using scissors.](https://www.aol.com/pennsylvania-man-cut-off-dog-135900043.html) > [@](#): > > In a case that has shocked animal lovers nationwide, a Pennsylvania man is facing felony animal cruelty charges after allegedly cutting off his dog’s injured leg with a pair of scissors—choosing unimaginable pain over proper veterinary care. The dog, a 4-year-old Labradoodle named Kimber, was left to suffer in agony for days before help arrived. Now, advocates are demanding a lifetime ban on animal ownership for this man to ensure no other animal endures such horror at his hands. Surely, this wasn’t intentional? > [@](#): > > According to affidavits and reports from the Pennsylvania SPCA, Kimber’s nightmare began when she was injured by a hay machine blade on her owner’s farm. Rather than rush her to a veterinarian for emergency care, 45-year-old Stephen Stoltzfus made a horrifying decision: he severed Kimber’s leg himself, using nothing but scissors. > > Stoltzfus later called a local veterinary clinic, but not for help in treating her wound—instead, he was simply looking for pain medication. When veterinary staff pleaded with him to bring the suffering dog in for proper treatment, he refused. Oh, that explains it. He was just treating the animal himself. But what was so important he couldn’t take the poor creature to a qualified person to treat her? > [@](#): > > He had a picnic to attend. There’s more at the article. But this is more than enough to qualify as evil. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3151 "2025-06-17T06:11:50Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > There’s more at the article. But this is more than enough to qualify as evil. Well, what do you expect? Not everybody has a gravel pit and shotgun at the ready! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3152 "2025-06-17T06:27:02Z")
> [@](#): > > He had a picnic to attend. And you don’t eat a dog like that all at once! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3153 "2025-06-17T06:57:41Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > And you don’t eat a dog like that all at once! I laughed, but doggone it, you’re a sick puppy! That comment’s going to hound you for ages. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3154 "2025-06-17T19:26:32Z")
> **[Baby of brain-dead woman delivered in Georgia, woman's mother says](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1jwl9l9yneo)** > > The woman was being kept on life support because of Georgia's strict abortion laws. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3155 "2025-06-17T21:08:14Z")
More ICE thuggery. > **[NYC mayoral candidate is arrested at immigration court after linking arms...](https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/brad-lander-nyc-comptroller-and-mayoral-candidate-is-arrested-outside-immigration-court/)** > > New York City Comptroller and Democratic mayoral candidate Brad Lander was arrested by federal agents at an immigration court Tuesday after he linked arms with a person authorities were attempting to detain. > [@](#): > > In the moments before Lander was handcuffed, agents could be seen trying to physically separate him from the man they had come to detain. Lander struggled to stay close, keeping his arms locked with the man. Videos taken by journalists show agents struggling to separate Lander from the man he’d linked arms with for more than 40 seconds before wresting the two apart. Multiple agents then grabbed Lander’s arms and put them behind his back. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3156 "2025-06-17T21:30:54Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > [Baby of brain-dead woman delivered in Georgia, woman's mother says](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1jwl9l9yneo) And he goes straight on the “Worthless drain on society” list. Not even sarcasm. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3157 "2025-06-18T14:14:17Z")
[Parents prayed over the body instead of calling 911](https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/christian-parents-let-their-baby) Long story short: Uber-Christian parents make the fatal decision not to take their jaundiced newborn to the hospital, state subsequently seizes two more babies to prevent them from dying in a similar way. > **[Lansing faith-healing couple sentenced for death of baby who died of...](https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/2025/06/11/lansing-faith-healing-couple-piland-joshua-rachel-abigail-jaundice/84136736007/)** > > The June 11 sentences from an Ingham County judge ended an eight-year criminal legal battle stemming from the death of Abigail Piland. They should have had [better lawyers](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/david-collet-stephan-ezekiel-trial-decision-1.5288343). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3158 "2025-06-18T17:07:39Z")
Fortunately, the preview had the name of the child in it, so I could look it up and find a version of the article people can read without a paid subscription. > **[Lansing faith-healing couple sentenced for death of baby who died of...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/lansing-faith-healing-couple-sentenced-161307813.html)** > > The June 11 sentences from an Ingham County judge ended an eight-year criminal legal battle stemming from the death of Abigail Piland. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3159 "2025-06-18T18:03:41Z")
Exact same article, only without the preview ad trying to get you to subscribe; just press the “X” in the top right corner of the ad to get to the full story. I don’t subscribe to the Lansing State Journal. The blog article doesn’t even flash an ad at you. You’re welcome. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3160 "2025-06-18T18:58:07Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > just press the “X” in the top right corner of the ad On a mobile device there is no X. There is no way to view this without a subscription. The link literally starts with “[subscribe.lansingstatejournal.com](http://subscribe.lansingstatejournal.com)”, it’s not even a direct link to the article. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=157) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=159)