# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3161 "2025-06-18T20:02:13Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> In related news, opening statements in [the Karen Read retrial](https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/04/10/metro/karen-read-jury-selection-one-juror-left/) might not be too far off

> **[Live updates: Jury finds Karen Read not guilty of second-degree murder in...](https://apnews.com/live/karen-read-trial-verdict)**
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> A jury found Karen Read not guilty of second-degree murder Wednesday in the death of her Boston police officer boyfriend John O’Keefe, but guilty of a lesser charge of drunk driving.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3162 "2025-06-19T02:04:57Z")

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I was able to access the article via the original link twice for free.

On my Android phone.

On attempt #3 just now I got the subscribe ad blocking the story, apparently from going to the well once too often.

Access experiences differ. Try providing an alternate link minus the sniffy tone next time.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3163 "2025-06-19T02:30:26Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Try providing an alternate link minus the sniffy tone next time.

Given your reaction, I was being a bit too restrained.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3164 "2025-06-23T07:35:50Z")

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[Someone’s carrying make believe just a tetch too far.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-22-arrested-allegedly-attempting-002216522.html)

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> A British man was arrested after allegedly attempting to stage a fake wedding to a 9-year-old girl at [Disneyland Paris](https://people.com/couple-considers-using-disabled-person-skip-lines-disneyland-11724140).
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> The man, 22, allegedly was the “groom” in a staged ceremony that was scheduled to occur the morning of Saturday, June 21, in front of the park’s Sleeping Beauty castle, according to [_The Sunday Times_](https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/disneyland-paris-mock-wedding-child-r3jrgwbpz). He told police that the goal was to ultimately make a video for social media, per the outlet.
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> Authorities were first alerted to a potential issue after Disneyland Paris staff noticed that the bride at a pre-scheduled wedding appeared alarmingly young, per _The Sunday Times._ The outlet additionally reported that authorities discovered that the wedding “guests” were hired actors who had been bused into the park for the event and given few details about what was scheduled to occur.
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> Alexandre Verney, assistant prosecutor for the Seine-et-Marne département, told _The Sunday Times_ that the child has received a medical examination, and it was determined that she was unharmed. Verney told the outlet that four people were arrested in connection with the incident: the British “groom,” the child’s mother, who is a 41-year-old Ukrainian woman, and two Latvian nationals, ages 24 and 55.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3165 "2025-06-23T12:20:43Z")

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Crank magnetism kills.

> **[Our sister died because of our mum's cancer conspiracy theories, say brothers](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crenzwyvpn1o)**
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> Paloma Shemirani’s brothers say she refused chemotherapy because of their mother’s beliefs.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3166 "2025-06-23T14:27:51Z")

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The implication here is the “groom” wasn’t a creeper, just somebody who had an idea for a outrage-triggering video that would generate a LOT of clicks from both creepers and outraged normies.

I’m not sure I’d categorize that as Evil. Unless we want to characterize most “influencers” as Evil. I think they’re harmful, but if the Evil category is to retain any meaning at all, we probably don’t want to dump 25% of the folks under 30 into that bucket.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3167 "2025-06-23T15:58:14Z")

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So he’s either a groomer or a troll (or indeed both). Either high-grade or low-grade evil, or something in-between. Still comes across as a not-good person nonetheless.

Or someone trying to film a really weird movie without getting Disney’s location permissions, which is a whole other issue.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3168 "2025-06-23T16:28:49Z")

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Scumbag for sure. Evil? Perhaps. I’m not invested enough to figure it out.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3169 "2025-06-23T18:46:57Z")

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Seems more Stupid MFer than Evil MFer.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3170 "2025-06-23T20:03:03Z")

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Lotta folks seem to believe any remote hint of pedophilia is proof positive worthy of summary execution. IMO those folks are wrong. But there are millions of them.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3171 "2025-06-24T00:55:29Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Or someone trying to film a really weird movie without getting Disney’s location permissions

It’s [been done](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_from_Tomorrow).

> The film drew attention, because Moore had shot most of it on location at both Walt Disney World Resort and [Disneyland Park](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland) without permission from [The Walt Disney Company](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walt_Disney_Company), owner and operator of both properties. Due to Disney’s reputation of being protective of its [intellectual property](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property), the cast and crew used [guerrilla filmmaking](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_filmmaking) techniques to avoid attracting attention, such as keeping their scripts on their [phones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone) and shooting on handheld video cameras similar to those used by park visitors.[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_from_Tomorrow#cite_note-LA_Times_story-3) After [principal photography](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principal_photography) was complete, Moore was so determined to keep the film a secret from Disney that he edited it in South Korea. Sundance similarly declined to discuss the film in detail before it was shown. It has been called “the ultimate guerrilla film”.[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_from_Tomorrow#cite_note-Movies.com_post-4) Rather than suppressing the film as Moore claimed would happen, Disney chose to ignore it.[[5]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_from_Tomorrow#cite_note-5)

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3172 "2025-06-24T01:32:47Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> It’s [been done](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_from_Tomorrow)

Good god. My brain hurts. That plotline is insane. Even just reading about it is hard.

I should probably watch it.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3173 "2025-06-25T08:55:40Z")

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For a bit of historical evil, I learned about this remarkable person just the other day. Surprisingly, a story about a (possible serial) murderer who was also a counterfeiter and a priest hasn’t yet been made into a series or movie as far as I know.

> **[Hans Schmidt (priest)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Schmidt_(priest))**
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> Hans B. Schmidt (1881 – February 18, 1916) was a German Catholic priest, rapist, convicted murderer, and suspected serial killer. He was executed by way of the electric chair at Sing Sing Prison in New York State for murdering and dismembering a pregnant woman in the United States. He was also suspected in the murders of another woman and two children. Schmidt was the first and remains the only Roman Catholic priest to be executed in the United States.
> Hans Schmidt was born in the Bavarian tow...

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3174 "2025-06-25T20:43:29Z")

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> [@](#):
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> In a later conversation with Manhattan alienists (Schmidt) recalled "The Bishop ordained me alone. I do not like to speak of it.

Hmm…

Schmidt couldn’t compete with [this guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerian_Trifa) when it comes to killings.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3175 "2025-06-26T13:07:44Z")

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An antivax U.K. doc found to have harassed fellow physicians (and who previously got into trouble for accusing a well-known British TV presenter of pedophilia) has been “struck off” the medical register - the equivalent of losing his license to practice.

> **[Dr David Cartland Struck Off After 17 Proven Misconduct Allegations](https://thehodlines.co.uk/2025/06/26/dr-david-cartland-struck-off-after-17-proven-misconduct-allegations/)**
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> By James Murray-Hodcroft | The HodlinesPublished: 26th June 2025 Dr David Cartland has been struck off the UK medical register following a damning ruling by the Medical Practitioners Tribunal Servi…

Among the charges proven against him was improperly issuing a Covid-19 vaccine exemption certificate, and posting on social media personal details of another doc who refused to hire him, paving the way for his many Twitter followers to harass her. Much of his bad behavior wasn’t even considered by the General Medical Council, including numerous nonsensical antivax postings, support for dodgy (love that term) medical treatments and virulent anti-Semitic posts.

[A real doll](http://cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/gallery/david-cartland-homophobic-tweets-show-10292888).

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3176 "2025-06-26T13:49:02Z")

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Why didn’t they appoint him to head the NHS? He’s obviously qualified.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3177 "2025-06-26T14:17:37Z")

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If he follows in the footsteps of a more famous struck-off U.K. doctor, Andrew Wakefield, he’ll come to the U.S. to lure in a new herd of followers (Brave Maverick Doctors are worshipped by a certain class of credulous fools) and make his fortune. Wakefield parlayed his antivax status into a lucrative job with an autism group and an Austin, Texas estate.

Cartland has been making noises about establishing a new U.K. practice combining “allopathic” medicine and naturopathy, which supposedly would enable him to avoid regulatory oversight. It probably won’t end well.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3178 "2025-06-26T14:32:49Z")

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Yeah, he should definitely move to Texas. A) no regulations, and B) more fools. He’d be a hit there in minutes.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3179 "2025-06-26T14:38:31Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> He’d be a hit there in minutes.

He even looks vaguely like a younger Ted Cruz.

[![](https://www.totaldoctor.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/crop_thumbnail/public/profile-pictures/dr-cartland.jpg?h=cc74b221&itok=qVkbd0UN) ](https://www.totaldoctor.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/crop_thumbnail/public/profile-pictures/dr-cartland.jpg?h=cc74b221&itok=qVkbd0UN)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3180 "2025-06-30T02:15:37Z")

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There is a fire in Idaho and some asshole shoots at firefighters responding to it. At the moment it’s believed that two firefighters are dead.

> **[Two dead, likely firefighters, after 'ambush-style' shooting east of Coeur...](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2025/jun/29/active-shooter-incident-reported-near-rathdrum-in-/)**
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> At least two people are dead after someone shot at firefighters in an "ambush-style" attack in Kootenai County Sunday afternoon, officials said.

> Fire crews from Kootenai County Fire and Rescue and Coeur d’Alene Fire Department were responding to a small wildland fire around 1:20 p.m. on Canfield Mountain, east of Coeur d’Alene. Around 2 p.m., a suspect with “modern-day sporting” weapons began shooting at them, Kootenai County Sheriff Bob Norris said during a press conference Sunday.
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> Pat Riley, Northern Lakes fire chief, said it quickly turned into an “ambush-style active shooter,” and one of his personnel had to be pulled out and taken to the nearest fire station.
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> The two people confirmed killed in the ambush were likely firefighters, Norris said. Other casualties were reported, but Norris said it’s unclear how many. It’s also unclear if there is one suspect or multiple, he said. When firefighters reported the shots, they said they felt them coming from different directions.

It’s a developing story so details are sparse.

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