# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3346 "2025-08-16T20:42:41Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> It just feels weird that someone like a nurse might recognize your tattoo and call the cops. I’m not sure _why_ it feels wrong to me, though.

It shouldn’t. That nurse is doing the public a favor.

Medical professionals save lives. Whether that’s performing surgery or helping law enforcement capture a violent criminal.

They can also recognize when someone has been a victim and may let the authorities know.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3347 "2025-08-16T22:20:43Z")

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Just because they treat the guy without prejudice doesn’t mean they shouldn’t turn him in. He’s still a criminal, regardless of his need for heath care.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3348 "2025-08-17T00:44:26Z")

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[Babysitter gets 100 years in prison for taking special needs children to her boyfriend to be molested.](https://www.aol.com/news/california-babysitter-weeps-she-sentenced-051225387.html)

> A California babysitter used her service, specifically created to work with special needs children, to prey on small defenseless girls as young as three and allowed her boyfriend to molest them.
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> Brittney Mae Lyon wept as she was sentenced to a century in prison on Thursday for sexually assaulting at least four girls she was entrusted to watch, creating a demonic system of child abuse with 31-year-old Samuel Cabrera.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3349 "2025-08-17T01:55:23Z")

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In the US, hospital staff would likely not be allowed to report that really creepy dude was a patient.

[AHA Guidelines](https://www.aha.org/system/files/2018-03/guidelinesreleasinginfo.pdf)

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3350 "2025-08-17T02:47:50Z")

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Looks like it would be permissible, based on those guidelines.

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> A hospital may disclose patient information to law enforcement authorities if the hospital believes, in good faith, that the disclosure is necessary for identification or apprehension of an individual.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3351 "2025-08-17T03:20:17Z")

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Possibly. The guidelines further clarify your quote

“A hospital may disclose patient information to law enforcement authorities if the hospital believes, in good faith, that the disclosure is necessary for identification or apprehension of an individual. The hospital’s good faith belief may be based on one of the following: If it appears from all circumstances that the individual escaped from a correctional institution or from lawful custody; or If an individual makes a statement admitting participation in a violent crime that the hospital reasonably believes may have caused serious physical harm to the victim. In this case, the hospital may release only the individual’s statement and those items of information that may be disclosed when assisting in the identification and location of a person, as discussed above.”

I think really creepy dude was _wanted_ but not escaped.

I believe in legally ambiguous but obvious public safety cases, someone may anonymously drop a dime.

Edit; Lawful custody could equate with wanted

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3352 "2025-08-17T03:29:48Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> “The hospital’s good faith belief may be based on one of the following:”

It doesn’t say it _must_ “be based on one of the following”, so reporting the patient as in the case of the fugitive wanted rapist might have been OK.

Hard to believe current guidelines would prevent another Richard Speck from being reported to authorities.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3353 "2025-08-17T03:36:23Z")

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Agree. What I’ve seen is each instance is unique, and what happens depends on the crime or the potential further harm to society.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3354 "2025-08-18T02:05:26Z")

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> [@Monty quoting NY Post](#):
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> Brittney Mae Lyon wept as she was sentenced to a century in prison

Awww. Poor baby.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3355 "2025-08-19T21:13:03Z")

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She and her boyfriend, who received 8 life terms, are fucking monsters. Good lord almighty, why are some people so evil.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3356 "2025-08-20T00:35:21Z")

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Once you think only of yourself, anything is easy.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3357 "2025-08-20T17:22:40Z")

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Not quite on the level of evil as others in this thread, but still evil nonetheless.

> A school district in Indiana had to close its schools Tuesday after someone stole the catalytic converters from many of its buses.
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> According to a Facebook post from Michigan City Area Schools, transportation staff discovered early Tuesday morning that the buses had been vandalized.
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> The district said it was forced to switch from in-person learning to online learning due to the thefts.
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> According to WNDU, about 20 buses were vandalized.

> **[District cancels classes on 5th day of school after buses had catalytic...](https://www.fox10tv.com/2025/08/19/district-cancels-classes-5th-day-school-after-all-its-buses-had-catalytic-converters-stolen/?fbclid=IwY2xjawMS3tBleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFyVUxMTk5wMU5rcVoxN252AR4E8vZ0Y0iCR_pSOjepzDzu8krNBCnXqhQW0boAwS208fVK3bNbswp4x8VVUw_aem_C6Z4urr-uYf7S6CKdB1I3w)**
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> A school district in Indiana had to close its schools Tuesday after someone stole the catalytic converters from many of its buses.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3358 "2025-08-20T17:44:48Z")

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Having had my catalytic converter stolen, resulting in USAA totalling my car, I would say that the perpetrators are indeed evil.

(I bought my car back, and am still driving it – with a brand new cat. I had to pay a fairly high price for it, because USAA said, ‘Well, there’s nothing wrong with it.’ Total the car because a new cat costs more than the car is worth, then sell it back to me at more than a totalled car should be worth because, except for the missing cat, there’s nothing wrong with it. 🙄 )

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3359 "2025-08-20T17:48:09Z")

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I’ve had to replace a catalytic converter (not due to theft) and they ain’t cheap!

Cost more than the vehicle’s Blue Book value but I needed a vehicle and buying a new cat was still cheaper than buying a reliable used car. So I winced, paid for the repair, and I am still driving it years later.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3360 "2025-08-20T18:34:14Z")

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From @Railer13’s cite of FoxTV …

> [@Railer13](#):
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> > According to WNDU, about 20 buses were vandalized.

Probably not “vandalized” which means damaged or destroyed for recreation or revenge. More likely they were burgled, as in stolen for material gain. You can sell a cat for a bunch of money on the stolen parts market. Twenty of them would be a nice night’s haul.

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**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3361 "2025-08-20T20:50:56Z")

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We have had them stolen from a couple of the vehicles at work. One was a Nissan Titan. Has multiple Cats on it. Five maybe? I can’t remember what it cost, but it was a LOT.

You get up in the morning, start the vehicle, and its as loud as a WWII fighter. Has to be towed to the shop. I hate thieves.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3362 "2025-08-20T21:58:16Z")

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> [@FluffyBob](#):
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> I hate thieves.

Fair enough, but I hate the auto industry. The cat was a non-solution to relying on dirty and inefficient engine design based on century-old principles, for which there easily could have been better alternatives. The only benefit to catalytic perverters was in weaning us off the lead.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3363 "2025-08-20T22:17:09Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The only benefit to catalytic perverters was in weaning us off the lead.

I mean, that’s a pretty huge benefit, wouldn’t you say?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3364 "2025-08-21T01:39:57Z")

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> [@FluffyBob](#):
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> We have had them stolen from a couple of the vehicles at work.

We had a rash of that years ago during the pandemic. People were taking advantage of there being hardly anyone around. We park in a multistory parking garage attached to our building with a skybridge, and there was a whole rash of thefts.

I was still driving a work van back then and was afraid it would get hit but that never happened.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3365 "2025-08-21T03:15:37Z")

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[We are now back to maiming those convicted of crimes.](https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/la-man-agrees-castrated-part-182823736.html)

> A Louisiana man who admitted to trying to rape a 7-year-old in 2023 has agreed to be physically and chemically castrated, per authorities.
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> Thomas Allen McCartney, 37, pleaded guilty on Monday, Aug. 18, in Vernon Parish, La., to the first-degree attempted rape of a child under the age of 13, Vernon Parish District Attorney Terry Lambright confirms to PEOPLE.
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> As part of the plea agreement, McCartney agreed to submit to castration, per the DA’s office. He will also serve 40 years with the Louisiana Department of Corrections.

Yes, his crime was appalling. But so is mutilation as a sentence. This abhorrent sentencing agreement cannot be constitutional.

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