# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 175
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3486 "2025-10-14T11:49:12Z")
I was going to put this in the police interactions thread, but I don’t think it belongs there. A few days ago an off duty officer got into a very minor accident with someone…then shot him. The family, obviously, demanded to see the dash cam footage and then, un-obviously, said (paraphrased) 'yup, that was justified. Even the family’s attorney, from my reading of it, is fully blaming it on the deceased, not even vaguely suggesting the cop overreacted or otherwise trying to keep their foot in the door for a wrongful death case or settlement of some kind. > “The video in which myself and his mother watched today is that he did slap the off-duty officer with a firearm,” said B’Ivory LaMarr, the family’s attorney. “(It) does depict Elijah pointing the firearm at the off-duty officer. The off-duty officer did respond, we believe, in accordance with his training and did fire off several shots.” I don’t know if the other person knew this guy was a cop or not, but he gets out of his car, pistol whips the cop and then gets himself shot as soon as he points his gun at the cop. One of the articles says that an ‘enhanced’ version of the video shows he also fired at the cop. I’m putting this in the ‘evil’ thread because I get the feeling whoever he got into an accident with, be it a cop or a 16 year old kid, he would have attempted to kill. > **[Off-duty Milwaukee police officer shooting video released](https://www.fox6now.com/news/off-duty-milwaukee-police-shooting-video-released)** > > Milwaukee police have released the video of the shooting involving a Milwaukee man and an off-duty Milwaukee police officer. > **[Milwaukee police release footage early of Elijah Wilks pistol-whipping...](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2025/10/13/milwaukee-police-release-footage-early-of-officer-killing-elijah-wilks/86678799007/)** > > The footage is less than 75 seconds long and was from the officer's personal dash cam, which shows Wilks strike the officer with a pistol. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/kGlDFRNy7ic/maxresdefault.jpg "Officer Involved Shooting October 9th, 2025 - Video") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGlDFRNy7ic) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3487 "2025-10-14T11:56:27Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > The video in which _ **myself** _ and his mother watched today Is grammar _ **dead** _?!? Also, it reads like he’s talking about a reaction video, like _2 Girls, 1 Cup_, or _the Hamilton Polka_ by Weird Al. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3488 "2025-10-14T11:59:57Z")
Only mostly. Barely hanging on. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3489 "2025-10-14T12:06:54Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Is grammar _ **dead** _?!? > > Also, it reads like he’s talking about a reaction video, like _2 Girls, 1 Cup_, or _the Hamilton Polka_ by Weird Al. JFC that’s a shitty comment to make about the situation. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3490 "2025-10-14T12:12:02Z")
May I suggest that you study up on the concept of _compartmentalization?_ i.e., The comment wasn’t about the situation; it was about the grammar. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3491 "2025-10-14T13:10:55Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Is grammar _ **dead** _?!? I speak as an English native language speaker, born to an English native English teacher (both lit & lang), and as one who achieved English GCSE ‘A’ levels… There is no grammar error there. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3492 "2025-10-14T13:12:11Z")
Remove “and his mother” from the sentence and read it again. How’s that sound? Also, superfluous “in.” Also, “which” is more properly “that.” ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3493 "2025-10-14T13:15:35Z")
I beg to differ, on all three points. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3494 "2025-10-14T13:16:41Z")
Sorry, brother, grammar conventions are what they are, your opinion notwithstanding. I hereby rescind your A levels. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3495 "2025-10-14T13:17:26Z")
Oxford comma? You, too, get detention. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3496 "2025-10-14T13:18:04Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > Is grammar _ **dead** _?!? > > I speak as an English native language speaker, born to an English native English teacher (both lit & lang), and as one who achieved English GCSE ‘A’ levels… > > There is no grammar error there. Then please explain how the reflexive voice is appropriate in this instance (with apologies to your mother as applicable). ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3497 "2025-10-14T14:33:59Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Then please explain how the reflexive voice is appropriate in this instance (with apologies to your mother as applicable). I do understand you are American, the people who, while speaking “English”, have developed a dialect of their own, complete with spelling and certain nuances different to His Majesty’s English. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3498 "2025-10-14T15:07:12Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > May I suggest that you study up on the concept of _compartmentalization?_ > > i.e., The comment wasn’t about the situation; it was about the grammar. The comment was about _2 Girls, 1 Cup_ (which I have never seen – only skimmed a few description back when it was apparently a thing). ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3499 "2025-10-14T17:34:43Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > I do understand you are American, the people who, while speaking “English”, have developed a dialect of their own, complete with spelling and certain nuances different to His Majesty’s English Pardon the digression, but am I the only one who is still getting used to putting “his” instead of “her” in front of “majesty”? ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3500 "2025-10-14T17:51:20Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Pardon the digression, but am I the only one who is still getting used to putting “his” instead of “her” in front of “majesty”? too soon? 😜 `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3501 "2025-10-14T18:23:10Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > “The video in which myself and his mother watched today is that he did slap the off-duty officer with a firearm,” 1. I was always taught refer to the other person first, then self. 2. “In which” - was this a video of the man and the mother _watching_ the dash cam video? Should be “that”. 3. “Myself and his mother” is the subject of a subordinate clause. Also, there is case dissimilarity. 4. “… watched today is that he did…” - is this sentence edited/truncated? Because with the extraneous clause removed, that reads “The video is that he did slap…” Awkward with be verb, should be action verb like “shows”. Most of which is _formal_ English that doesn’t apply to any dialectual variations. Now that it’s been parsed, can we worry less about the way it’s worded and more about the content - acknowledgment the shooting was justified? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3502 "2025-10-14T18:50:16Z")
What this story (of the police shooting of Elijah Wilks) demonstrates is that honest police officers should not fear or oppose bodycams (though this footage was from a dashcam), because in this case, the footage showed the shooting to be justified. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3503 "2025-10-14T18:53:19Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I expect that the county and/or city are going to have to spend some big money, and some folks are getting fired. and then immediately hired by ICE. They have what it takes: Stupidity, cruelty and racism. The three pillars of ICE. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3504 "2025-10-14T18:59:18Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > Then please explain how the reflexive voice is appropriate in this instance (with apologies to your mother as applicable). > > I do understand you are American, the people who, while speaking “English”, have developed a dialect of their own, complete with spelling and certain nuances different to His Majesty’s English. Why, that didn’t explain anything at all! That being said, thank you for the response. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3505 "2025-10-14T19:51:54Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > and then immediately hired by ICE. Would not be shocked. I wonder when former ICE members will face trial at the Hague. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=174) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=176)