# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 180
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3586 "2025-11-07T21:31:38Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > “These acts are not excusable; however, they are typically motivated by peer pressure, a lack of impulse control, a failure to recognize the severity of the offense, a lack of understanding of the nature of the law, and relaxed inhibitions fueled by alcohol or drug use.” What a difficult road for the poor young man; where is the GoFundMe I can donate to help him? /s ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3587 "2025-11-07T21:41:49Z")
I also receive the Morning Brief, and like you I’m thankful this piece of drivel didn’t smack me in the face (when I looked, the op-ed was a David Horsey cartoon on energy-sucking AI data centers). Most of the comments were surprisingly appropriate; to me, the best quote: > And make sure all the ICE agents have a good supply of masks, we wouldn’t want them to expose their sensitive skin to our Seattle weather. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3588 "2025-11-07T23:12:42Z")
That Oklahoma kid has a real future as a President. He’s off to a great start. ---
**Author:** ![Tierce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@Tierce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tierce)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3589 "2025-11-07T23:59:45Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > [We are reminded that](https://www.ok-criminal-defense.com/juvenile-sex-crimes) “These acts are not excusable; however, they are typically motivated by peer pressure, a lack of impulse control, a failure to recognize the severity of the offense, a lack of understanding of the nature of the law, and relaxed inhibitions fueled by alcohol or drug use.” Statements like this are why I’d like to introduce a new standard acronym. OWTART: “Oh, Well That’s All Right Then” ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3590 "2025-11-08T00:01:13Z")
Am I correct that the boy still has a number of felonies on his record, to which he pleaded No Contest? At least that will make it less possible in the future to deny he did those things. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3591 "2025-11-08T00:23:53Z")
Surely a candidate for a pardon by Trump, with a big orange squeegee to wipe his record clean. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3592 "2025-11-08T00:40:07Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gq8xEEdMdBc/maxresdefault.jpg "well that's alright then") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq8xEEdMdBc) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3593 "2025-11-08T00:41:48Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Surely a candidate for a pardon by Trump Last time I checked, Trump wasn’t the governor of Oklahoma. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3594 "2025-11-08T01:25:11Z")
True. But last time I checked, Trump hasn’t been real big on following the legal consensus on what he can and can’t do. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3595 "2025-11-08T01:41:44Z")
The president can’t pardon state crimes, only federal. There’s no “but what if I did anyway” end-run around that. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3596 "2025-11-08T02:12:12Z")
True, but he can just tell the OK governor to do it, right? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3597 "2025-11-08T02:22:56Z")
In Oklahoma the governor can only issue a pardon after a vote of the Pardon and Parole Board, so no. > **[About](https://oklahoma.gov/ppb/about.html)** ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3598 "2025-11-08T03:11:52Z")
Yeah, you’re right. Trump has never done an “end-around” regarding his constitutional powers. [https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-president-and-constitutional-violations-will-the-federal-courts-contain-the-presidents-power-grabs/](https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-president-and-constitutional-violations-will-the-federal-courts-contain-the-presidents-power-grabs/) > [@](#): > > In a recent [interview](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-asked-uphold-constitution-says-dont-know-rcna204580), President Trump responded to a question as to whether he had to uphold the Constitution with, “I don’t know.” Note that my original comment was largely facetious, given that Trump _should_ feel little need to intervene in this slap on the wrist case. It did not necessitate your snotty response. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3599 "2025-11-08T03:13:06Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Yeah, you’re right. Trump has never done an “end-around” regarding his constitutional powers. Feel free to explain the mechanism by which Trump would be able to pardon a state offense, then. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3600 "2025-11-08T03:14:38Z")
Feel free to explain the mechanisms by which Trump has felt free to override his Constitutional limits already. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3601 "2025-11-08T03:15:57Z")
You want me to explain your argument for you? Why don’t you go first. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3602 "2025-11-08T03:54:12Z")
I realize this is the Pit, but can we save the hate for all the evil motherfuckers in the news, and take your personal pissing matches to another thread? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3603 "2025-11-08T06:35:03Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > It’s funny that the picture illustrating the article shows 3 brown national guardsmen. They used to be called [kapos](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapo). ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3604 "2025-11-08T13:29:38Z")
You don’t know OK politics very well, do you? Very quickly the red state governors aided by their all-red legislatures rolling over will also begin governing by decree. Might be 2027, might be right after trump is somehow still president after Jan 2029. Then trump calls the OK goverernor and says “I order you to pardon Shit-for-brains Butler”. The OK governor says “Yes sir, Emperor Trump sir” and does so. The OK bureaucracy follows the governor’s orders like good little RW-controlled bureaucracies do. Done. Once _the_ Big-L Law doesn’t matter (and it increasingly doesn’t every day), then _every_ small-l law doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3605 "2025-11-08T13:55:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Feel free to explain the mechanism by which Trump would be able to pardon a state offense, then. Step 1: Trump issues the pardon. Step 2: Armed goons loyal to Trump show up at the prison, and say that Trump said to let the prisoner go. Step 3: The prison guards, who are probably also loyal to Trump, let the prisoner go. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=179) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=181)