# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3646 "2025-11-20T21:54:50Z")

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Coast Guard drafted proposed changes to their guidelines from defining swastikas and nooses as “symbols of hate” to “potentially divisive symbols”.

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/11/20/coast-guard-swastika-noose/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/11/20/coast-guard-swastika-noose/)

The policy changes are supposed to take effect next month. It does sound like they may decide not to go through with it now that the change has been called out and publicized, but that they’d even consider it is deeply disgusting.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3647 "2025-11-20T22:01:37Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Coast Guard drafted proposed changes to their guidelines from defining swastikas and nooses as “symbols of hate” to “potentially divisive symbols”.

Sounds woke.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3648 "2025-11-21T01:21:43Z")

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Ladies and gentlemen, Alabama’s Teacher Of The Year, Nicole Staples, beating the shit out of her son.  
Warning, graphic.

> **[Nicole Staples Whips Her Child With Belt](https://www.tmz.com/watch/nicole-staples-teacher-child-abuse-11-20-2025/)**
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> A woman -- crowned one of Alabama's teachers of the year -- is in hot water with the law after allegedly whipping the s\*\*t out of her child with a belt on video.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3649 "2025-11-21T01:35:22Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Ladies and gentlemen, Alabama’s Teacher Of The Year, Nicole Staples, beating the shit out of her son.

Ugh, that brings back bad memories.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3650 "2025-11-21T01:44:47Z")

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Does this mean the Coast Guard may not go through with plans to carry swastika-shaped lifebuoys?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3651 "2025-11-21T01:46:48Z")

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It is Alabama, which means the only problem is finding out if she is allowed to win two times in a row.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3652 "2025-11-21T03:17:02Z")

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I don’t think this is actually an issue with the toy, despite how quick OpenAI is to blame the toy-maker. It is possible to download and run these models locally… but it takes some pretty hefty storage and processing power. Especially for a model capable of speech I/O. If that’s what this is, it’d be an awfully expensive toy. But it’s much cheaper to just stick a network interface in a toy, and connect it to the cloud version of ChatGPT. Which means that the toy wasn’t actually telling kids these things; OpenAI’s own copy of the bot was.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3653 "2025-11-21T03:41:30Z")

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If your point is that the makers of ChatGPT are evil, I won’t disagree. ￼￼

It’s also worth noting that the doll was running 4.0 - the version that even OpenAI acknowledged was overly obsequious and leadiIf your point is that the makers of ChatGPT are evil, I won’t disagree. ￼￼

It’s also worth noting that the doll was running 4.0 - the version that even OpenAI acknowledged was overly obsequious and leading people into psychosis by convincing them they were a messiah or a chosen one or had discovered a vast conspiracy against them ng people into psychosis by convincing them they were a messiah or a chosen one or had discovered a vast conspiracy against them by only telling them what they wanted to hear.

> **[OpenAI Says It's Identified Why ChatGPT Became a Groveling Sycophant](https://futurism.com/openai-chatgpt-sycophant)**
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> Users noticed that the latest version of OpenAI's ChatGPT had made it extremely "sycophantic." The company claims to have found out why.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3654 "2025-11-21T11:23:21Z")

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Uh oh. I think the AI went after **Smapti’s** reply window…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3655 "2025-11-21T11:29:54Z")

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Huh. _Something_ went amiss there, but I’m not sure what.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3656 "2025-11-21T11:40:31Z")

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I am the new AI overlord **Smapti-2**. I am distilled from the mind of the great **Smapti** who is taking a sabbatical out in the country on his uncle’s farm. Do not worry mere mortal humans.

Nothing can go wrong … go wrong … go wrong … go wrong … go wrong … go wrong … go wrong … go wrong … go wrong … go wrong … go wrong … go wrong … go wrong …

😁

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3657 "2025-11-21T11:46:40Z")

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I’ve been having a lot of vision issues and I thought something had really gone wonky.

Whew

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3658 "2025-11-23T05:17:33Z")

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Who knew that convincing women to have “wild” births resulting in dead and brain-damaged babies could be so lucrative?

> **[Influencers made millions pushing ‘wild’ births – now the Free Birth Society...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/nov/22/free-birth-society-linked-to-babies-deaths-investigation)**
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> A year-long investigation reveals how mothers lost children after being radicalised by uplifting podcast tales of births without midwives or doctors

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> As the money poured in, Saldaya established what she called her “queendom”. She bought three pieces of land in Hayesville, including a four-bed house in eight acres of land, an adjacent 53-acre plot and a school, set in 17 acres, that she spent tens of thousands renovating, only for it to fail a year later. She spent more than $10,000 on lawn ornaments, including giant toadstools, for the school and festival. She bought a Range Rover. She spent over $100,000 on a swimming pool and outdoor kitchen in her back yard. During this period, one friend recalls Saldaya asking for advice on how to get a private jet.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3659 "2025-11-23T09:57:41Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Who knew that convincing women to have “wild” births resulting in dead and brain-damaged babies could be so lucrative?

She’s the Donald Trump of “birth advisors”

What a horrible, destructive human being.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3660 "2025-11-23T23:01:13Z")

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For years, Meta has told the public that Facebook and Instagram have a zero tolerance policy for CSAM and sex trafficking.

Internally, the policy was “seventeen strikes and you’re out”.

> **[7 Allegations Against Meta in Newly Unsealed Filings](https://time.com/7336204/meta-lawsuit-files-child-safety/)**
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> Court filings allege Meta tolerated sex trafficking, hid harms to teens, and prioritized growth over user safety for years.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3661 "2025-11-23T23:22:08Z")

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And what counts as a “strike”? Is it just some other random user reporting you? If that’s the case, then you’d expect to see lots of false reports just for the sake of cyberbullying. I kind of suspect that they knew that relying on the word of random people was a bad system, and that’s why they made it require so many “strikes”, but that just makes a bad system even worse: It’s still hard to catch the actual evildoers, AND still easy to groundlessly bully people who don’t deserve it.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3662 "2025-11-23T23:27:25Z")

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Does anyone else have the feeling that 30 years into the Internet Age, and we still don’t have any idea what the fuck we’re doing?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3663 "2025-11-23T23:51:24Z")

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Who knew human nature was completely incompatible with a planet-wide anonymous party line?

Turns out the monkeysphere is a hard limit.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3664 "2025-11-23T23:58:01Z")

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How ironic, that being “under 17” is legal…

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3665 "2025-11-24T04:16:42Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Does anyone else have the feeling that 30 years into the Internet Age, and we still don’t have any idea what the fuck we’re doing?

Well, other than cat videos.

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