# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3666 "2025-11-24T08:59:55Z")

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[Telegram sex crime ring leader sentenced to life imprisonment.](https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/law-crime/20251124/court-sentences-leader-of-telegram-sex-crime-ring-to-life-imprisonment)

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> By **Yonhap**
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> - Published Nov 24, 2025 4:20 pm KST
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> A court on Monday sentenced the leader of a Telegram-based sex crime ring to life imprisonment for sexually exploiting 261 people, including minors, over nearly five years.
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> Kim Nok-wan, 33, was charged with organizing and working for the crime ring known as “The Vigilantes,” producing and distributing sexual exploitation videos, forcing the use of illegally produced videos and quasi-rape.
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> In addition to the prison term, the Seoul Central District Court ordered the publication of Kim’s personal information on digital networks for 10 years, 10 years of employment restriction and 30 years of wearing an electronic device.
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> Kim ran the crime ring from May 2020 until January 2025 and sexually assaulted children and teenagers while calling himself a “pastor.”

It’s short, so check out the article. Yeah, he’s an evil one.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3667 "2025-11-24T09:12:39Z")

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What the hell is “quasi-rape”?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3668 "2025-11-24T14:40:48Z")

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> **[Rape, Imitative Rape, and Quasi-Rape Sex Crime Laws in South Korea](https://seoullawgroup.com/rape-law-korea/#3_Quasi-Rape)**
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> Sex crime laws in South Korea is one of the most subdivided areas of law. The laws regarding sexual crimes, were to protect women.

> \*A person who has sexual intercourse with another or commits an indecent act on another by taking advantage of the other’s condition of unconsciousness or inability to resist shall be punished in accordance with Article 297, 297-2, or 298.

I guess in South Korea, rape is when a person has sex forced against their will, and quasi-rape is when they don’t have the ability to resist or give consent.

It has the same penalty as “normal” rape though.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3669 "2025-11-24T15:09:54Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Well, other than cat videos.

That’s because the cats have always been secretly running the internet.

I have said too much.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3670 "2025-11-24T15:12:37Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> That’s because the cats have always been secretly running the internet.
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> I have said too much.

Well, it’s too late to take it back meow.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3671 "2025-11-25T02:15:18Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> > Well, other than cat videos.
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> That’s because the cats have always been secretly running the internet.
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> I have said too much.

Well, scratch that, then.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3672 "2025-11-25T03:19:47Z")

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Am I reading that right, that part of his sentence was a court-ordered doxing?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3673 "2025-11-25T05:04:44Z")

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It’s a sex offender registry. Odd wording for it, though.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3674 "2025-11-27T00:19:43Z")

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OpenAI is being sued by the family of a teen who was driven to suicide by ChatGPT.

They say they can’t be held responsible because killing yourself is a TOS violation.

> **[Family Suing OpenAI Over Teen's Suicide Blasts 'Disturbing' Response From...](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/chatgpt-lawsuit-suicide-openai-response-1235473571/)**
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> OpenAI has responded to a landmark wrongful death lawsuit, claiming that a teen who died by suicide after talking to ChatGPT misused the software.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3675 "2025-11-27T01:04:14Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> They say they can’t be held responsible because killing yourself is a TOS violation.

Hah!

Perhaps we can call that Catch-21 in honor of the current century?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3676 "2025-11-28T20:52:03Z")

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Pete Hegseth ordered the Navy to kill the survivors of one of his boat strikes in the Caribbean.

This is murder.

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/11/28/hegseth-kill-them-all-survivors-boat-strike/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/11/28/hegseth-kill-them-all-survivors-boat-strike/)

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3677 "2025-11-28T21:04:34Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Pete Hegseth ordered the Navy to kill the survivors of one of his boat strikes in the Caribbean.

Here’s a non-paywalled link from [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/28/politics/us-military-second-strike-caribbean).

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3678 "2025-11-28T21:04:47Z")

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The US military is going to follow orders. I hope people realize that soon enough.

I also hope they realize that probably were very eager to do it. Killers like to kill.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3679 "2025-11-29T00:20:30Z")

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Former Navy Chief Warrant Officer Jim Wright (of Stonekettle Station fame) [had this to say](https://www.facebook.com/groups/795017370654044/?multi_permalinks=3390255174463571&hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen& __cft__ %5B0%5D=AZUd_L5wlmCYq9kom2jqzfkzjTM30GVCEZzMdWAywU_5u8naPBgFCC-m97tNrQ2pM5RmgIdaPsOzgvSqAhHjtVTpYdVSNox161zug4Fl79aYhwzyIfIplUqECtR4wgWewBUwakQAXLJYiYAyNIfdeSJL_0dplDHryHxlWYWS66lzuQ& __tn__ =%252CO%252CP-R) on Facebook about this:

> If you as a fighter pilot shot down an enemy aircraft and the crew ejected and then you went after them in their parachutes, you’d be rightful prosecuted as a war criminal. That was LITERALLY the example used when I went through military training as a Navy Officer on the use of deadly force, unlawful orders, and the rules of war.
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> This is no different.
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> If this is true, then the officers and sailors responsible for carrying out these orders have put themselves in the position of being prosecuted for criminal violation of US military and civilian law.
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> But it does tell you exactly why Republicans are so angry at the military being reminded not to follow unlawful orders.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3680 "2025-11-29T00:28:25Z")

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Perhaps we can recall Mark Kelly to service so he can preside over Hegseth’s court martial.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3681 "2025-11-29T00:47:19Z")

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Enjoyable image, but it would be the professionals in the JAG Corps who’d prosecute, and the judge(s) would also be specially trained and certified military officer attorneys.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3682 "2025-11-29T06:25:32Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> This is murder.

IJN officers and crew were tried and convicted exactly for this.

> **[Japanese war crimes | Execution and killing of captured Allied seamen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes#Execution_and_killing_of_captured_Allied_seamen)**
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> 1.Rear Admiral Takero Kouta, commander of the Japanese First Submarine Force at Truk, on 20 March 1943 sent out to subs under his command an order to kill Merchant Navy crewman after the ship was sunk.\[full citation needed\]\[full citation needed\] |
> 2.The United States Merchant Navy ship SS Jean Nicolet, torpedoed by Japanese submarine I-8 on 2 July 1944, off Ceylon at .mw-parser-output .geo-default,.mw-parser-output .geo-dms,.mw-parser-output .geo-dec{display:inline}.mw-parser-output .g The prohi...

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3683 "2025-11-30T13:42:16Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Perhaps we can recall Mark Kelly to service so he can preside over Hegseth’s court martial.

As civilians, I don’t think Hegseth or his boss are subject to court martial, more’s the pity.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3684 "2025-11-30T18:59:29Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> As civilians, I don’t think Hegseth or his boss are subject to court martial, more’s the pity.

Hegseth, as a retired military person, **can** face a court martial.

> **[2025 Guide: Can Retired Military Be Court-Martialed? Explained](https://militarytrialdefenders.com/blog/retired-senior-military-officer-faces-court-martial-proceeding/)**
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> Discover if retired military personnel can face court-martial under U.S. law. Explore key cases, legal implications, and military justice system insights

Trump, as a draft dodger who has never served anyone but himself, is not subject to one.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3685 "2025-12-01T23:03:00Z")

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As a member of the cabinet he is subject to impeachment. Unfortunately he is not liable for war crimes as we are not – you know – at _war_.

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