# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 189
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2025, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3766 "2025-12-09T16:39:27Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Wearing “combat shirts” under their vests, I bieve is the intention. I at first read that as “combat shits”. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3767 "2025-12-09T17:24:45Z")
Is the guy with the gun pointing it directly at the person in front of him? Seems about right. Also, the guy on the far right has, what appears to be, a bean bag gun with a silencer. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3768 "2025-12-09T17:48:03Z")
Is that an off-shoot of “Battle Shits”? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3769 "2025-12-10T05:59:39Z")
Passenger on a Royal Caribbean cruise is served 33 free drinks back-to-back, then beaten, trampled, pepper-sprayed, and injected with sedatives when he became belligerent, causing him to expire from asphyxiation. They then stuck his corpse in a fridge for four days until they returned to port. > **[Cruise passenger was served 33 drinks, pepper sprayed and restrained before...](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-12-09/cruise-lawsuit-drinks-royal-caribbean)** > > Lawsuit against Royal Caribbean alleges a man who died onboard one of its ships consumed 33 drinks before he was restrained and died onboard. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3770 "2025-12-10T07:36:12Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Some of them are flopped so that the knob on top is on the other side. No, no. The knob is _under_ the cap. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3771 "2025-12-10T08:57:10Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > They then stuck his corpse in a fridge for four days until they returned to port. To be fair, that generally IS what one does with a corpse on board a ship. Unless you want a burial at sea, but if any sort of investigation or autopsy is required you need some way to keep the deceased safely stored. Folks don’t want to think that the nice old lady who expired peacefully in her sleep in cabin 14G (or whatever) is now resting next to the steaks and ice cream, but that’s the reality of a ship at sea. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3772 "2025-12-10T14:34:16Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > injected with sedatives Sedatives in addition to alcohol? That should be criminal, not civil, charges. No matter even if the guy should have practiced some restraint. 33 drinks! I don’t think even in college I knew anyone that could, or would, do that. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3773 "2025-12-10T15:13:57Z")
I believe engineering students are expected to drink 40 beers. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3774 "2025-12-10T15:20:42Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > > [@Smapti](#): > > > > They then stuck his corpse in a fridge for four days until they returned to port. > > To be fair, that generally IS what one does with a corpse on board a ship. Unless you want a burial at sea, but if any sort of investigation or autopsy is required you need some way to keep the deceased safely stored. Folks don’t want to think that the nice old lady who expired peacefully in her sleep in cabin 14G (or whatever) is now resting next to the steaks and ice cream, but that’s the reality of a ship at sea. I don’t think Royal Caribbean carries a staff forensic pathologist and diener, or a fully-equipped morgue. Gotta refrigerate the corpus delicti until back in port. After 33 drinks you’d expect someone to be comatose or dead, not combative. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3775 "2025-12-10T15:34:28Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > I believe engineering students are expected to drink 40 beers. I don’t think I’ve drunk 40 beers in all the years since I entered college. But I still have time. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3776 "2025-12-10T15:48:53Z")
Remember that all the information in the articles is from the lawsuit - it’s claiming 33 drinks were served, presumably Royal Caribbean will attempt to refute that (assuming this doesn’t wind up in a settlement). Having said that, it sounds like he died only hours after the ship left port. Storing the body of someone who died under those unusual circumstances for 4 days instead of returning to port immediately is pretty suspicious/horrible - it’s not like they were in the middle of the Pacific and had no other options. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3777 "2025-12-10T16:34:06Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Storing the body of someone who died under those unusual circumstances for 4 days instead of returning to port immediately is pretty suspicious/horrible Suspicious? How is not destroying the vacation of 4,000 other passengers suspicious? I’d immediately be part of a class action suit against RCL if they _did_ turn back for a dead body. I’ve been on cruises where somebody had to be helicopter medevacced off. That multi-hour detour to facilitate the helo pickup disrupted the next 5 days of shore activity for everybody. For somebody alive, I’m happy enough to make that sacrifice. Knowing that the Captain and HQ and medical staff did not make that decision lightly. For 150lbs of dead meat? _Fuggeddaboudit_. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3778 "2025-12-10T18:57:28Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I don’t think Royal Caribbean carries a staff forensic pathologist and diener, or a fully-equipped morgue. Gotta refrigerate the corpus delicti until back in port. Maybe not a _fully equipped_ morgue, but cruise ships do have places to store bodies if need be. Here’s the first link I found, but there’s plenty of other pictures/videos/articles. [https://cruise.blog/2025/11/do-cruise-ships-have-morgues](https://cruise.blog/2025/11/do-cruise-ships-have-morgues) ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3779 "2025-12-10T19:38:28Z")
With 33 cocktails in his body, I’m surprised they even needed to put it on ice. Should have been pickled enough to make it back to the mainland. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3780 "2025-12-10T21:21:47Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Sedatives in addition to alcohol? That should be criminal, not civil, charges. No matter even if the guy should have practiced some restraint. 33 drinks! I don’t think even in college I knew anyone that could, or would, do that. Well, it was haloperidol, which doesn’t interact dangerously with alcohol in the same way that, say, Xanax does. But yeah, any sedative can repress the breathing reflex, especially in combination with other sedatives. (Incidentally, even a single dose of haloperidol can potentially cause severe and incurable movement disorders; it’s not illegal or even uncommon for it to be used in these sorts of “calm down the guy who’s being a disruptive PITA” situations, but it probably should be). I wonder how they know he had 33 drinks. He was on a package deal, so I don’t see why the bar staff would have had any reason to keep track. In any case, I take 2 things away from that: 1)their drinks are obviously shamefully weak, and 2)even so, they’re going to have a real hard time arguing that their servers had no way of knowing that the guy they’d just served 32 drinks to was intoxicated and should be cut off. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3781 "2025-12-10T21:44:42Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > I wonder how they know he had 33 drinks. He was on a package deal, IANA expert on RCL specifically, but in general on cruises with other lines you are issued a fob which is your room key and your identity bracelet. Whether you bought the drinks package or are paying a la carte prices, either way they scan your bracelet with each drink ordered and delivered. It all goes on your itemized tab. Date, time, person serving, what was had, etc. Whether that ends up with a charge of $5.00 or $0.00 for that particular e.g. Budweiser is all downstream in accounting, not upstream in the data gathering POS system. For sure the security staff aboard has access to all the CCTV vids for the ship, all the room entry/exit records, and all the food and beverage records. Big Brother really is everywhere aboard. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3782 "2025-12-10T22:25:52Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > > [@Smapti](#): > > > > They then stuck his corpse in a fridge for four days until they returned to port. > > To be fair, that generally IS what one does with a corpse on board a ship. Unless you want a burial at sea, but if any sort of investigation or autopsy is required you need some way to keep the deceased safely stored. Folks don’t want to think that the nice old lady who expired peacefully in her sleep in cabin 14G (or whatever) is now resting next to the steaks and ice cream, but that’s the reality of a ship at sea. I might well be incorrect, but isn’t the reality that a deceased passenger is stored in a dedicated morgue, and not just next to the steaks and ice cream? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3783 "2025-12-10T22:31:02Z")
Undoubtedly there’s a basic facility for putting the dead on ice, so to speak. Especially given the average age of passengers, cruise ship operators are well aware of the likelihood of someone dropping dead at sea. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3784 "2025-12-10T22:39:07Z")
Years ago I worked in a small ER which had two dedicated, refrigerated, body storage spaces. I have no idea why they installed them. We never used them for their intended purpose. We never did autopsies, and the funeral homes were quick to respond to our requests for service. The only time I ever saw them used was one time for beer and soda for a facility wide party. I Don’t think we actually needed to use them for that party but it made for a great picture. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/3785 "2025-12-10T22:39:12Z")
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