# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 206
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4106 "2026-03-25T12:03:07Z")
Man, those guys loved ritual. Was there a secret handshake and a decoder ring? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4107 "2026-03-25T14:55:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The “Kloran”? _Really?_ There’s only so many words that start with “K” or “Kl”, even if you make them up. Sometimes you have to borrow. It’s kalled Klultural Appropriation. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4108 "2026-03-26T00:31:43Z")
Your post notes that the Klan materials found in the suitcase “presumably once belonged to a Highway Patrol officer”, but the linked article says “A Ku Klux Klan mask and the handwritten charter for the organization’s Mississippi chapter of the White Knights were found in evidence archives of the state Department of Public Safety.” Has it been found that those materials belonged to a patrol officer who was a Klan member/sympathizer? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4109 "2026-03-26T00:34:20Z")
If you are just a member, does that make you a Klod? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4110 "2026-03-26T00:46:42Z")
Isn’t that what Fred Flintstone used to shout? “Klabba Dabba Do?” ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4111 "2026-03-26T01:17:23Z")
Ben Grimm: “It’s klobbering time!” ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4112 "2026-03-26T01:33:27Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Quite apart from everything else, KKK terminology is just goofy even by secret society standards. They’ve got Klavern, Klexter, Klokards, Klabee, Kladd, Kligrapp and a Kludd, not to mention the “Grand Giant”. It’s like Temu-brand Dr Seuss. Or a bunch of rabid Klingons. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4113 "2026-03-26T01:38:41Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Or a bunch of rabid Klingons. Wearing hoods to mask your identity? YOU HAVE NO HONOR! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4114 "2026-03-26T07:19:55Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The “Kloran”? _Really?_ It’s a bowlderized version of that Muslim holy book. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4115 "2026-03-26T15:03:03Z")
“Klallah Klakbar” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4116 "2026-03-26T19:07:27Z")
Maryland woman hires Guatemalan comtractors to fix her roof, then calls ICE on them to get out of paying the bill. > **[Woman skips roofing bill by calling ICE when workers finish: report](https://www.rawstory.com/ice-roofers/)** > > American Immigration Council senior fellow Aaron Reichlin-Melnick reacted in horror on Thursday to an allegation that a woman in Maryland hired a team of Guatemalan contractors to redo her roof at an expense of $10,000, waited until they were done —... ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4117 "2026-03-26T19:11:23Z")
How…Trumpian. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4118 "2026-03-26T20:21:02Z")
If anyone deserved to have her house burnt down… ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4119 "2026-03-26T23:47:11Z")
Maybe the contractors might get miraculously released. Those odds could be one in eleventytrillion, but it’s nice to imagine them repaying her a visit. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4120 "2026-03-27T00:15:56Z")
Nah, burning her house down wouldn’t be any kind of justice. Justice would be deporting her roof. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4121 "2026-03-27T02:26:56Z")
Interestingly enough, deporting someone doesn’t make them vanish off the face of the earth. Well, it didn’t used to, at least. Deporting someone also doesn’t absolve you of a debt. I imagine there may be a friendly lawyer willing to sue this lady, put a lien on her property, etc. so that she has to deal with that AND pay the men who still exist, and who she owes money to. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4122 "2026-03-27T02:35:40Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > I imagine there may be a friendly lawyer willing to sue this lady, put a lien on her property, etc. so that she has to deal with that AND pay the men who still exist, and who she owes money to. Sue her? She’s gonna be looking at prison time. [https://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/criminal-law/title-3/subtitle-7/section-3-701/](https://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/criminal-law/title-3/subtitle-7/section-3-701/) > A person may not obtain, attempt to obtain, or conspire to obtain money, property, labor, services, or anything of value from another person with the person’s consent, if the consent is induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened… notification of law enforcement officials about another person’s undocumented or illegal immigration status. > > If the value of the property, labor, or services is at least $10,000 but less than $100,000, a person who violates this section is guilty of the felony of extortion and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 15 years or a fine not exceeding $15,000 or both. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4123 "2026-03-27T04:17:56Z")
People are asking each other what’s her name (it hasn’t been released). I think it will be widely known before long. I found it trivially easy to locate her exact address simply from information in the news and the accompanying video. From that it would be a short step to finding the owner’s name from public records. I’m not taking that step, but somebody certainly will soon. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4124 "2026-03-27T06:24:36Z")
MD prosecutors would have to prove that she attempted to get the contractors _to consent_ to write off bad debt. It’s possible she just refused to pay and then called the authorities without threatening them first. Even so, criminal prosecution does not necessarily give the victims any money. A court would likely rule that the contract is void because it is contrary to public policy, specifically section 101 of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1984 (which prohibits contracting for the labor of unauthorized aliens even in the absence of an employer-employee relationship). _See_ 8 U.S.C. 1324a(a). However, the contractors may be able to recover the fair market value of their work under the doctrine of restitution/quantum meruit. The Supreme Court came closest to deciding on similar facts in _Hoffman Plastic_, where the Court denied backpay to an unauthorized alien for the period between his termination for union activity and the employer’s subsequent discovery of his immigration status. The Court held the employment contract to be illegal and void, but did not rule whether aliens can recover under quantum meruit for work actually performed. It does not appear the Fourth Circuit has issued any decisions addressing whether such an action survives the public policy argument. Other circuits have interpreted _Hoffman Plastic_ to allow recovery in similar situations. _See, e.g._, _Lucas v. Jerusalem Cafe_, 721 F.3d 927, 935 (8th Cir. 2013) (upholding award for overtime wages under the NLRA). ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4125 "2026-03-29T12:02:28Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Nah, burning her house down wouldn’t be any kind of justice. > > Justice would be deporting her roof. I’ll have a word with the next tornado that rolls through my area about taking care of that. 😆 More seriously - people like that can find out that, unlike oligarchs and presidents, she won’t escape the consequences of pulling a stunt like that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=205) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=207)