# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 209
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4166 "2026-04-03T01:41:23Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > That woman’s story was an episode of Forensic Files. She wound up getting caught because, in the forged suicide note/confession she wrote in her daughter’s name, she misspelled antifreeze as “antifree”, which was the same way she pronounced it during police interviews. > > So she’s an evil MFer AND a stupid MFer. Yeh, that was a good episode in a pretty good show. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4167 "2026-04-03T19:20:00Z")
In the last week, 21 dead “canines” of indeterminate species have washed up on the shore of an island in Puget Sound, skinned and with twine wrapped around their necks. > **[8 more 'canine' carcasses found on Skagit County beaches, brings total to 21](https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/8-more-canine-carcasses-found-skagit-county-beaches/281-e47a4ca4-c302-4450-aa29-5498477c1168?tbref=hp)** > > The Guemes Island fire chief said eight more carcasses were recovered on Thursday, bringing the total to 21 canines found in the last week. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4168 "2026-04-03T20:08:50Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > In the last week, 21 dead “canines” of indeterminate species have washed up on the shore of an island in Puget Sound, skinned and with twine wrapped around their necks. Follow the currents, they’ll lead back to Enumclaw, mark my words. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4169 "2026-04-03T23:19:08Z")
A certain Mr. Burns is at the top of my list of suspects… [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TyWVaZsUQjc/hqdefault.jpg "See My Vest! (The Simpsons)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyWVaZsUQjc) ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4170 "2026-04-03T23:41:09Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Follow the currents, they’ll lead back to Enumclaw, mark my words. I can tell this is a joke, because Enumclaw appears to be land-locked. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4171 "2026-04-03T23:47:19Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I can tell this is a joke, because Enumclaw appears to be land-locked. It’s still one place around here most famous for animal abuse. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4172 "2026-04-04T00:12:18Z")
They don’t kill animals in Enumclaw, they just have sex with them. > **[Enumclaw horse sex case](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enumclaw_horse_sex_case)** > > The Enumclaw horse sex case was a series of incidents in 2005 involving Kenneth D. Pinyan, an engineer who worked for Boeing and resided in Gig Harbor, Washington; James Michael Tait, a truck driver; and other unidentified men. Pinyan and Tait filmed and distributed zoophilic pornography of Pinyan receiving anal sex from a stallion under the alias "Mr. Hands". After engaging in this activity on multiple occasions over an unknown span of time, Pinyan received fatal internal injuries in The sto... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4173 "2026-04-04T00:23:13Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > They don’t kill animals in Enumclaw The animals kill them I suppose! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4174 "2026-04-04T02:35:38Z")
Meanwhile, in the “everything is gambling now” file, Polymarket was allowing people to place bets on whether the pilots shot down over Iran would be rescued alive. > **['This is disgusting': Polymarket removes betting on downed US pilots after...](https://www.rawstory.com/polymarket/)** > > Online betting site Polymarket came under fire Friday for allowing users to gamble on the date that U.S. pilots downed over Iran would be rescued or recovered — and, faced with criticism, pulled this option from their platform.The bet, which stated... ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4175 "2026-04-04T10:05:13Z")
This article is a couple years old, but I’m just seeing it now and it doesn’t seem to have been brought up to this point, so; The increasing availability of home DNA testing has provided evidence that, contrary to mid-20th-century estimations that it was rarer than one in a million, at least in the UK, as many as one in every 7,000 people are the product of parent-child or or brother-sister incest. > **[DNA Tests Are Uncovering the True Prevalence of Incest](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2024/03/dna-tests-incest/677791/)** > > People are discovering the truth about their biological parents with DNA—and learning that incest is far more common than many think. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4176 "2026-04-04T19:57:18Z")
Sam Altman’s sister says he raped her multiple times over the course of a decade starting when she was three years old. [https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/judge-now-dismisses-lawsuit-by-sam-altmans-sister-accusing-openai-ceo-sexual-2026-03-20/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/judge-now-dismisses-lawsuit-by-sam-altmans-sister-accusing-openai-ceo-sexual-2026-03-20/) ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4177 "2026-04-04T20:23:14Z")
So who’s the evil MFer in this case? Is it intended that we should judge in advance of evidence? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4178 "2026-04-04T21:24:19Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The increasing availability of home DNA testing has provided evidence that, contrary to mid-20th-century estimations that it was rarer than one in a million, at least in the UK, as many as one in every 7,000 people are the product of parent-child or or brother-sister incest. > > [DNA Tests Are Uncovering the True Prevalence of Incest - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2024/03/dna-tests-incest/677791/) That’s not surprising in the least. Child sexual abuse by family members exists; teen pregnancy also exists, and is often brought to term. It’s not so hard to put one plus one together; in in 7,000 seems reasonable (by which I mean logical, not acceptable), even low. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4179 "2026-04-04T22:18:31Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > It’s not so hard to put one plus one together; in in 7,000 seems reasonable (by which I mean logical, not acceptable), even low Meanwhike, the regular public often throw around “that’s one in a million” just as their version of going around saying “inconceivable!” when maybe it’s not really that well supported by evidence, and the format of the research and interpretation of evidence are driven by “eewwww”. So really, one would think that the expectation _would_ be more to the side of “rare, but yeah it does happen”. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4180 "2026-04-04T22:45:16Z")
I’ll cite an earlier post of mine in the companion thread: > [@Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/3816): > > Almost on-point with @JRDelirious just above … I’ve told this story before, but one of my Bros was a criminal justice major. Went on to be a pilot, not a cop; his major was chosen to be easy, not to be useful. He did a summer internship with the county prosecutor’s office covering the middle-sized city that held the university. After his stint there I asked him what he learned. With a rueful sigh he said: “Statistically speaking, incest is normal human behavior.” Traditional small town valu… ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4181 "2026-04-05T12:12:32Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Meanwhike, the regular public often throw around “that’s one in a million” just as their version of going around saying “inconceivable!” when maybe it’s not really that well supported by evidence, and the format of the research and interpretation of evidence are driven by “eewwww”. Going by that study, incest seems very conceivable indeed. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4182 "2026-04-05T12:35:00Z")
Oof. That smacked me right in the face. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4183 "2026-04-05T13:29:33Z")
Yup. I dated a child protective services worker in the 1990s. She was first assigned to work in a rural area with a large population of a certain ethnic-religious group where she expected to find a lot of incest. She did, but she also found it in all the other members of the population, and the population of the large diverse city she was next assigned to. Having grown up in an upper middle class WASP family, she was shocked to find that upper middle class WASPs were not an exception either. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4184 "2026-04-05T15:13:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Going by that study, incest seems very conceivable indeed. Everything’s relative. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4185 "2026-04-05T15:28:27Z")
High time William Makis got a one-fingered salute in this thread. Makis is a one-time nuclear medicine doc who lost his job in Alberta after abusing staff and colleagues, later being sanctioned by a medical board for his behavior. He’s been a prime mover behind conspiracy theories about physicians and others who “died suddenly” after getting Covid vaccines, and a key promoter of the myth that the vaccines cause “turbo cancer”. Lately he’s set up as an “oncologist”, pushing a cancer cure “protocol” that relies on ivermectin and other antiparasitic drugs which are unproven against cancer. Canadian officials forced him to stop practicing medicine without a license, so he’s moving to Florida and apparently is on the verge of being licensed there to practice his quackery, because, well, it’s Florida. This article is revelatory. The alleged zoophilia is just rancid icing on the cake. > **[William Makis: The Truth Behind A Disgraced Doctor Turned Online Predator](https://openvaet.info/p/william-makis-the-truth-behind-a)** > > How the COVID-19 pandemic allowed him to rise to fame and fortune, by exploiting the public's trust. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=208) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=210)