# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4346 "2026-05-10T05:15:20Z")

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I’m thinking one count for rape, and one count for a sex act against someone who CANNOT give consent?

I also wondered why the disclaimer - “The following story has a picture of an Aboriginal person who died” - and did a little sleuthing. Some people in these cultures consider it disrespectful to display a picture of a person who has died, but her relatives did give permission to publish her photograph.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4347 "2026-05-10T20:04:43Z")

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Entitled POS hopefully will get criminal charges.

> **[Man detained after throwing huge rock at endangered seal in Hawaii](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/seattle-man-yells-m-rich-152113830.html)**
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> Harassing, injuring or killing a Hawaiian monk seal is illegal and can lead to fines or criminal charges

“I don’t care. Fine me. I’m rich.”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4348 "2026-05-10T20:10:12Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> “I don’t care. Fine me. I’m rich.”

Actual quote from the article by the way.

Very douchewaffly.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4349 "2026-05-10T20:15:28Z")

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How 'bout some jail time, then bro? Hope your income streams don’t suffer from inattendance.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4350 "2026-05-10T20:40:00Z")

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We could switch to the German system.

AIUI, and I bet it’s more limited and more complicated than I think, fines are levied as a percentage of your annual income, not as a fixed dollar amount. Make $5K/yr? It’s a $500 fine. Make $500K/yr? It’s a $50,000 fine.

If the goal is equal deterrence through threat of equally felt pain, that seems a reasonable approach to me.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4351 "2026-05-10T20:51:16Z")

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As long as they calculate actual income, not just what the tax code uses.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4352 "2026-05-10T21:22:42Z")

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I think the German style of fine AND some jail time to get his attention is called for. Those seals are endangered~entitled rich jerks are not. The world won’t miss him for 30 days. He should have to reimburse room, board and other expenses of his incarceration also.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4353 "2026-05-10T21:45:53Z")

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If I looked it up correctly, this is State Senator Brenton Awa asking (seriously, I believe) for airlines to show the video of locals beating the guy up to tourists on the way into Hawaii.  
[https://i.imgur.com/u8LnA39.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/u8LnA39.mp4)  
(If it doesn’t play, here’s a [link](https://i.imgur.com/u8LnA39.mp4) to the imgur page.)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2026, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4354 "2026-05-11T00:05:24Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> If the goal is equal deterrence through threat of equally felt pain, that seems a reasonable approach to me.

That’s often how lawsuits work; they’re called “punitive damages” and are meant to dissuade someone from repeating the offense that caused damage. A rich entity might get a huge penalty because the courts want it to matter.

Criminal statutes don’t work that way though, AFAIK.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2026, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4355 "2026-05-11T08:40:37Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Those seals are endangered~entitled rich jerks are not.

I hope the judge uses that in his sentencing !

> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> locals beating the guy up

Excellent.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4356 "2026-05-19T00:47:04Z")

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[So it’s child marrying time, evidently.](https://www.aol.com/articles/tyson-furys-16-old-daughter-171431323.html)

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> Heavyweight boxing champion [Tyson Fury](https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/tyson-fury-marries-wife-paris-171010407.html)’s eldest daughter married amateur boxer [Noah Price](https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/tyson-fury-daughter-venezuela-gets-215548675.html) at the Royal Chapel of St. John on the Isle of Man on Saturday, May 16, according to [Manchester Evening News](https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/gallery/venezuela-fury-wedding-pictures-bride-33959269), [_Isle of Man Today_](https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/venezuela-fury-and-noah-price-marry-in-isle-of-man-ceremony-907848) and the [_Mirror U.K_](https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/venezuela-fury-wedding-paris-live-37164591)_._
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> The bride, 16, wore a white lace fishtail gown with a 50-foot train. Venezuela paired the look with Crocs, which she previously told the [_Scottish Sun_](https://www.facebook.com/thescottishsun/videos/venezuela-fury-reveals-shes-wearing-crocs-down-the-aisle/3213265782397163/)she planned to wear during her nuptials.

But, hey, it’s not like they rushed into this.

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> Venezuela got [engaged](https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/tyson-fury-daughter-venezuela-gets-215548675.html) to Price at her 16th birthday party. She shared a video of the surprise proposal on her Instagram Stories at the time.
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> She later posted a [close-up look](https://www.instagram.com/p/DPG_mB1jEVf/) at her diamond engagement ring, writing in the caption of that post: “We are gettin married​🥰 so happy​❤.”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4357 "2026-05-19T00:54:14Z")

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I’m not sure where the “evil” comes into play here. 16 is age of consent in 30 states (including mine), and her husband is only two years older than herself. Young people rushing into marriage might be irresponsible at best, but it’s hardly 12-year-olds being married off to 70-year-old schismatic Mormon elders.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4358 "2026-05-19T00:56:38Z")

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The age for marriage with parental consent in England and Wales was 16 until 2023. It is still 16 in the Isle of Man.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4359 "2026-05-19T01:04:31Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Young people rushing into marriage might be irresponsible at best, but it’s hardly 12-year-olds being married off to 70-year-old schismatic Mormon elders.

Agreed. I don’t think it’s a good idea, but it’s not what I’d call “evil”.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4360 "2026-05-19T01:07:15Z")

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Compare, from 2021:

> **[North Carolina poised to raise minimum marriage age from 14 to 16 | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/18/politics/north-carolina-child-marriages-bill)**
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> North Carolina is one step away from raising the minimum age at which children in the state can wed from 14 to 16 after lawmakers there approved a measure that would change several key rules around child marriages in the state.

At the time, [up to 30%](https://www.citizen-times.com/story/opinion/2020/09/02/nc-becoming-destination-child-marriage-help-me-stop-opinion/5690355002/) of marriage applications involved age disparities that triggered statutory rape laws. The law passed.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4361 "2026-05-19T01:13:28Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Entitled POS hopefully will get criminal charges.

Awww, no man - you got it all wrong. [He was just trying to defend the wee sea turtles from the vicious, out of control seal.](https://www.newsweek.com/hawaiian-monk-seal-video-man-protect-turtles-devastated-attorney-11961797) He wasn’t trying to hurrrrrt it, he just wanted to oh, so gently steer it in another direction. Like any good Samaritan would. Will no one think of the wee sea turtles?!?! But, hey he now knows he made a mistake and is, like, really, really sorry and stuff.

😑

ETA: Corrected link.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4362 "2026-05-19T01:37:18Z")

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I just realized that guy lives in Covington. That town is like 10 minutes away from me. ☹

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4363 "2026-05-19T01:43:06Z")

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What a sweet, romantic story! (Barf)

Let’s come back in 5 years and see where they all are, and that includes her parents and their 7 bizarrely named kids. When I saw the headline, I thought they were married IN Venezuela, but no, Noah MARRIED Venezuela.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4364 "2026-05-19T02:17:03Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Let’s come back in 5 years and see where they all are, and that includes her parents and their 7 bizarrely named kids.

Dad’s net worth is $260 million. They’ll be fine.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4365 "2026-05-19T02:31:46Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> …and is, like, really, really sorry and stuff.

oh my goodness no!  
(he’s hopping mad!)  
from Newsweek article:

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> Asked in a separate interview if Lytvynchuk was apologetic, Breiner told Hawaii News Now, “absolutely, no, he’s devastated at the notion that people thought he wanted to injure the seal.”

Funny (“but not in a ‘ha-ha’ funny kinda way” as Grandma Hopie used to say) the dipshit, at the time, would say something along lines of “I’m rich, go ahead and sue me”, instead of, oh, I dunno, maybe explaining about warding if off from nearby turtles. Not that that would let him off the hook for such an outright shitty action - just, oh, _funny_, that he blew it off the way he did.

EDIT: apparently buddy got good and tuned up by someone at the time.

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