# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 224
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4466 "2026-06-08T00:23:03Z")
Family: Oh shucks, we’ve got kittens. We can’t afford to care for them. What a pickle! Alabama Man: Put them in a shoe box, a paper bag, and give them to me. I have an idea. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4467 "2026-06-08T03:43:02Z")
[And this is why capital punishment is evil.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/videos/death-row-inmate-tennessee-left-223008326.html) > [@](#): > > Tennessee officials halted the scheduled execution of Tony Carruthers after medical staff could not secure a required backup IV line under state protocol. The Tennessee execution, intended by lethal injection, was suspended when the Department of Correction team reported difficulty establishing venous access. Attorneys and advocates described a botched execution effort, alleging repeated attempts across multiple sites, while officials said a primary line was established quickly. Defense lawyers told Action News 5 he endured “absolute agony”; ACLU attorney Maria DeLiberato described repeated “stabbing” attempts, and federal public defender Amy Harwell alleged “over an hour and a half of torture.” Nice statistic at the end of the article. > [@](#): > > the Death Penalty Information Center reports more than 7% were botched from 1982–2010 ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4468 "2026-06-08T17:47:59Z")
I agree capital punishment is evil but if we’re going to do it, put a bullet in the back of their head and have done with it. All this lethal injection baloney is for the sake of we the living, not the prisoner. We need to be made uncomfortable every time it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4469 "2026-06-08T21:04:57Z")
Trouble is, no-one wants to be the identifiable one to pull the trigger (at least, no-one we the public would want to be doing it). So it seems like a firing squad is the closest to that ideal, with one unidentified person firing a blank round. Has there ever been an execution method that never went wrong? So if we agree that execution is wrong, let’s just not do it. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4470 "2026-06-08T21:16:38Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > So if we agree that execution is wrong, let’s just not do it. There’s a whole lot of different non-agreeing "we"s in this country. You or I might wish otherwise, but to say that the DP is a settled issue even in most states, much less at the federal level, is to fantasize. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4471 "2026-06-08T21:16:38Z")
Yeah, but bloodlust! ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4472 "2026-06-08T21:23:30Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > > So if we agree that execution is wrong, let’s just not do it. > > There’s a whole lot of different non-agreeing "we"s in this country. You or I might wish otherwise, but to say that the DP is a settled issue even in most states, much less at the federal level, is to fantasize. “If” is carrying a lot of weight in the part you quoted. I didn’t say, nor mean to suggest, that it is a settled issue. I think my main point is that there is no nice or tidy way to execute someone. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4473 "2026-06-08T21:33:23Z")
Ah, OK. I took a different meaning as your point. Sorry to misunderstand. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4474 "2026-06-08T22:13:45Z")
No problem, my composition was hasty and not as clear as it might have been. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4475 "2026-06-08T22:27:58Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Trouble is, no-one wants to be the identifiable one to pull the trigger I’m sure we could find no shortage of volunteers. Have them do it, then put them on a watch list. ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4476 "2026-06-09T00:01:13Z")
I’m wishy-washy on the death penalty. There are so many times it was abused or outright fraudulent, but also IMHO other times it was the right outcome (minus the fucking cost associated, which can’t be ignored). That being said, what about flooding a chamber with Nitrogen? Sure as shit effective, cheap, humane-ish??? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4477 "2026-06-09T00:21:37Z")
> [@Tride](#): > > That being said, what about flooding a chamber with Nitrogen? Sure as shit effective, cheap, humane-ish??? I don’t know how often it’s been done, but it has been done that way. ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4478 "2026-06-09T00:23:50Z")
Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4479 "2026-06-09T00:27:31Z")
> **[Nitrogen Suffocation | Equal Justice Initiative](https://eji.org/issues/nitrogen-suffocation/)** > > There is no scientific evidence on using nitrogen to execute people. > **[Inert gas asphyxiation | Capital punishment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas_asphyxiation#Capital_punishment)** > > Execution by nitrogen asphyxiation was discussed briefly in print as a theoretical method of capital punishment in a 1995 National Review article. The idea was then proposed by Lawrence J. Gist II, an attorney at law, under the title, International Humanitarian Hypoxia Project. In a televised documentary in 2007, the British political commentator and former MP Michael Portillo examined execution techniques in use around the world and found them unsatisfactory; his conclusion was that nitr In Apri... > **[An Alabama inmate was executed with nitrogen gas. How does it work? | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/us/nitrogen-gas-execution)** > > Alabama inmate Kenneth Smith was put to death Thursday night, marking the nation’s first known execution using nitrogen gas. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4480 "2026-06-09T00:27:51Z")
[American Bar Association: Alabama Prepares to Become First State to Carry Out Execution by Nitrogen Gas (2023)](https://www.americanbar.org/groups/committees/death_penalty_representation/publications/project_blog/alabama-prepares-for-execution-by-nitrogen-gas/) And then the follow-up, after they actually do it: > **[Alabama Has Executed A Man With Nitrogen Gas Despite Jury’s Life Verdict | ACLU](https://www.aclu.org/news/capital-punishment/alabama-has-executed-a-man-with-nitrogen-gas-despite-jurys-life-verdict)** > > U.N. experts say the method constitutes torture, violating international human rights treaties ratified by the U.S. Granted, they aren’t flooding a “chamber” with gas; it’s a mask they put on their face. As to being humane? > Despite state claims that it would be a painless death, [witnesses reported](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/alabama-man-shook-violently-on-gurney-during-first-ever-nitrogen-gas-execution/ar-BB1hhPTe)Mr. Smith shook, convulsed, writhed, and gasped for minutes until he was pronounced dead at least 22 minutes after the execution began, though[just how long it took is unknown](https://www.statnews.com/2024/01/29/kenneth-smith-nitrogen-gas-execution-science-alabama/) since Alabama closed the execution curtain before the official time of death. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4481 "2026-06-11T03:28:01Z")
A man has been arrested for attempting to extort a frisbee golf company for $100 million. [https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/olympia-man-accused-cyberstalking-extorting-michigan-disc-golf-company/281-cc3dc776-941a-43f9-bbd8-3a61552411a5?tbref=hp](https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/olympia-man-accused-cyberstalking-extorting-michigan-disc-golf-company/281-cc3dc776-941a-43f9-bbd8-3a61552411a5?tbref=hp) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4482 "2026-06-11T04:31:45Z")
In the competitive world of disc golf, they aren’t playing around. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4483 "2026-06-16T12:22:00Z")
This morning on NBC the FBI reported arresting people who planned to hit the White House with drones last Sunday. I’m always thrilled when law enforcement arrests people before such things occur. It didn’t necessarily happen in this case but I also like it when the criminals accidentally PM undercover agents in the planning stage. The latter seems to happen often. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4484 "2026-06-16T12:26:46Z")
> [@Eric1](#): > > It didn’t necessarily happen in this case but I also like it when the criminals accidentally PM undercover agents in the planning stage. Like Hegseth did? ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4485 "2026-06-16T12:45:42Z")
Oh yes! That was hilarious when he used that public chat space for planning operations. I still laugh about that these months later! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=223) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=225)