# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4586 "2026-07-03T13:46:21Z")

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So many questions… Did she deliberately kill them for some other reason, and then used vaccines as the cover-up? Did she accidentally kill them and used vaccines as the cover-up? Did she deliberately kill them just so she could use their deaths to attack vaccines? Did she think that they were developing vaccine-induced autism, and kill them as “defective” or to “spare” them?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4587 "2026-07-03T14:12:42Z")

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Good questions all. Here’s another:

Did she approach the anti-vax group, or did they approach her, scouring the news for child deaths to try to enlist just-bereaved parents in the cause of anti-vaxxism? Those stories are like manna from heaven for a dedicated propagandist.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4588 "2026-07-03T14:18:49Z")

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Since she was charged with first degree murder, I’d tend to rule out accidental death. Which just muddies the waters still more.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4589 "2026-07-03T15:26:06Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Good questions all. Here’s another:
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> Did she approach the anti-vax group, or did they approach her, scouring the news for child deaths to try to enlist just-bereaved parents in the cause of anti-vaxxism? Those stories are like manna from heaven for a dedicated propagandist.

The [New York Post](https://nypost.com/2026/07/01/us-news/lunatic-mom-claimed-her-twins-died-of-vaccine-injuries-now-shes-charged-with-killing-them/) (I know, I know) cites claims made by the accused mom during a podcast\* hosted by RFK Jr.'s Children’s Health Defense, that the 18-month-olds displayed worrisome signs and symptoms shortly after vaccination:

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> Shaw then sobbed and said that when the children woke up the next day, she noticed they appeared unwell, tired, and had blue lips.
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> “I changed her diaper, and I noticed the typical toddler pot belly was gone, she was skinny, she looked tired,” Shaw said.

Wow, the vaccines caused horrific weight loss by the following day! Those are some really bad “toxins”!

Naturally, CHD and other antivaxers are rallying behind Shaw, and will probably raise $$$ to hire big-time defense lawyers.  
Maybe Aaron Siri, and/or attorneys who specialize in defending those charged with harming or killing their kids via Munchausen by proxy will take on her case.

\*I couldn’t find a link to the CHD podcast on their website. Also, I heard it reported that Shaw deleted a bunch of stuff on her social media account(s).  
\*\*A [GiveSendGo appeal](https://www.givesendgo.com/shaw-family) has already been posted.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2026, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4590 "2026-07-05T22:11:53Z")

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Rockstar Games convinced a British court to involuntarily hospitalize an autistic 18-year-old without trial, for LIFE, because he hacked their server and leaked a trailer for their game about stealing cars.

> **[Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67663128)**
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> Judge says hacker remains a high risk through his skills and motivation to carry out cyber-crime.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2026, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4591 "2026-07-05T22:41:06Z")

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And he is, according to the story, a member of an international extortion ring that included this guy.

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> He worked with Kurtaj and other members of Lapsus$ to hack tech giant Nvidia and phone company BT/EE and steal data before demanding a four million dollar ransom, which was not paid.

Sounds like other firms paid extortion demands.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4592 "2026-07-06T01:05:15Z")

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Given my past and my profession I have a very dim view of cybercriminals and little sympathy for them.

But with this guy, I wonder if it’s an issue of someone who could have had a lot of potential that is now wasted. I don’t know anything about his past but I’m guessing it was not a kind one.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4593 "2026-07-06T13:21:39Z")

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This sounds like crazy “Hollywood writer with no tech knowledge” level stuff:

> Despite having his laptop confiscated, Kurtaj managed to breach Rockstar, the company behind GTA, using an Amazon Firestick, his hotel TV and a mobile phone.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4594 "2026-07-06T15:29:53Z")

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they didn’t even mention duct tape or a bobby pin.

Though a Fire Stick can browse the web, and that’s often all you need to hack someone if they have crappy security.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t able to do it with just his phone, assuming it’s a smart phone. A phone is just a small computer, and it’s more capable than a Fire Stick. Plus you can install all kinds of hacking crap if you jailbreak it.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4595 "2026-07-06T16:38:50Z")

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If the Rockstar servers are so insecure (and remember, this is a software company, not something completely unrelated to computers), then the company executives are too incompetent for their own good, and need to be hospitalized for their own protection.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4596 "2026-07-06T19:19:17Z")

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So, the NIL money wasn’t enough?

> **[Ex-NCAA hoops player Kerr Kriisa indicted on alleged $2.2M fraud scam](https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/49287753/ex-ncaa-hoops-player-kerr-kriisa-indicted-22m-fraud-scheme)**
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> Former Kentucky basketball player Kerr Kriisa has been arrested and indicted on a $2.2 million fraud scheme, the Department of Justice announced on Monday.

We must not Rush to Judgement.

I’m sure that the University of Kentucky is delighted that even though this guy played for four different schools, mostly at Arizona, and allegedly ran this fraud scheme while at West Virginia, major news outlets refer to him as “a former Kentucky player”.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4597 "2026-07-07T01:01:29Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> If the Rockstar servers are so insecure

Never played GTA Online, I see…

(Can be nearly unplayable at times because of all the hackers)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4598 "2026-07-07T01:24:47Z")

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> [@Kron](#):
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> (Can be nearly unplayable at times because of all the hackers)

I’ve never played GTA Online, but I’ve enjoyed some videos of the game showing the most ridiculous hacks. There’s even a video over 2 hours long with compilations of hacks and exploitable glitches.

But yeah, actually **playing it** , no thanks.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4599 "2026-07-07T02:36:35Z")

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Replying to myself: In the past couple of days, it was reported that twin girls were stillborn in 2022. This story gets even stranger: THE GIRLS WERE CONJOINED. Born sleeping at 24 weeks’ gestation, and conjoined at the chest. I’m very aware that this kind of thing can happen to anyone.

[https://www.wowktv.com/news/ohio/vinton-county-oh/twins-born-to-vinton-county-couple-accused-of-child-endangering-died-of-natural-cause-records-show/](https://www.wowktv.com/news/ohio/vinton-county-oh/twins-born-to-vinton-county-couple-accused-of-child-endangering-died-of-natural-cause-records-show/)

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4600 "2026-07-07T02:51:29Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Born sleeping

Why doesn’t the word _sleeping_ appear in your cite?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4601 "2026-07-07T03:16:08Z")

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To note that the term “born sleeping” is a kinder euphemism for “stillborn”.

That said, it’s not clear from that article whether they were stillborn or died shortly after their very premature birth.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2026, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4602 "2026-07-08T23:52:19Z")

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Random guy throws a Molotov cocktail on a dude in a wheelchair. Then he pushes the chair back into the fire.

It was right across the street from the OKC police headquarters, so the victim was quickly rescued and the flamethrower apprehended.

> **[Video shows moments stranger threw Molotov cocktail at man in wheelchair,...](https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-city-police-headquarters-wheelchair-man-set-on-fire/71858224)**
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> Police released video of a brutal downtown Oklahoma City attack where a man in a wheelchair was set on fire. Bystanders and officers pulled him from the flames.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4603 "2026-07-09T01:08:54Z")

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What the Hell? The perpetrator said that he just picked the victim at random. What is wrong with people!?

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4604 "2026-07-09T01:12:58Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The perpetrator said that he just picked the victim at random.

Would it be ok if it was someone they knew? Not random?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2026, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4605 "2026-07-09T02:11:15Z")

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It wouldn’t be OK, but it might at least be understandable.

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