# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2026, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4666 "2026-08-06T14:57:52Z")

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Illinois teenager dresses as a clown, approaches a home and stares at the Ring camera, and later is arrested as a suspect in a homicide.

> **[Killer Clown? Teen Murder Suspect Dressed in Costume Made Chilling Threat on...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/killer-clown-teen-murder-suspect-213032667.html)**
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> Illinois State Police have taken a 15-year-old boy into custody in connection with a homicide investigation

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2026, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4667 "2026-08-06T18:50:09Z")

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Man deliberately runs into and kills a coworker because he saw him hug a woman he had a crush on.

[https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/police-renton-man-fatally-hit-costco-co-workers-motorcycle-he-saw-him-hug-woman/281-869c57c2-2b57-4999-a453-1cae2802dbde](https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/police-renton-man-fatally-hit-costco-co-workers-motorcycle-he-saw-him-hug-woman/281-869c57c2-2b57-4999-a453-1cae2802dbde)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2026, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4668 "2026-08-06T21:55:24Z")

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So he had a crush on the coworker?

I’ll let myself out.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2026, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4669 "2026-08-06T22:31:13Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Man deliberately runs into and kills a coworker because he saw him hug a woman he had a crush on.

This 100% sounds like it’s from the TV show _Vice Principals_.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2026, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4670 "2026-08-06T22:34:45Z")

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The suspect in the Spokane arson case says he’s set at least 25 fires in recent days.

> **[Spokane arson suspect tells prosecutors he started 25 other fires](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/spokane-arson-suspect-told-prosecutors-he-started-25-other-fires-documents-say/)**
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> By Wednesday, detectives had corroborated evidence indicating he started at least four of the 25 fires he had described, prosecutors said in a memorandum.

Also, I am very aware that kids have done this kind of thing for as long as we’ve had trains, but what was likely an attempt to make a viral TikTok video could have had very different consequences. (In the mid 1980s, I worked with a woman who lived in a small town outside Des Moines, where I lived and we worked, and one day, IIRC the FBI showed up at the high school because some train signals were messed up in southern Missouri, and they had traced it to a smashed signal light outside this town. The culprits were identified.)

> **[Fairport police find kids who played chicken with train](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPHP8FlSIPo%2F)**
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> Fairport police identified kids seen dancing on railroad tracks as a train approached, prompting a safety warning from CSX officers.https://www.rochesterfirs...

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2026, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4671 "2026-08-07T00:29:24Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> So he had a crush on the coworker?
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> I’ll let myself out.

The jokes falls flat because of the same syntactic ambiguity.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2026, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4672 "2026-08-07T00:46:30Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Also, I am very aware that kids have done this kind of thing for as long as we’ve had trains

Not just kids. I spend time on Virtual Railfan’s camera in Flagstaff. East of the location is a busy crossing and there are a lot of bars to the north and Northern Arizona University to the south. As a consequence there is a lot of foot traffic across the tracks not all of which is entirely sober in the evenings.

One evening in particular some years ago one of the pedestrians stopped in the middle of the tracks and mooned an approaching freight train. The engineer made an emergency application (“Dumped the air.”) and the train stopped about twenty yards after the crossing as the miscreant scampered away. Since the speed limit in town is 45mph there was no real danger of derailment as there might have been at 70mph but as the slang term above might tell you, there was no air left to control the train’s speed. It had to sit there a good twenty minutes to recharge the reservoirs.

We heard the next day from someone who lived in Flag that irate motorists had detained the guy and handed him over to the police. What happened after that is unknown.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4673 "2026-08-09T00:43:41Z")

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Well if you told me you were drowning, I would not lend a hand…

> **[Mark Zuckerberg hammered after ignoring distress call for stranded vessel:...](https://www.rawstory.com/mark-zuckerberg-2677676414/)**
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> Billionaire and Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg was hit with “unanimous booing” this week for reportedly ignoring a request from the U.S. Coast Guard to rescue a stranded sea vessel from his $300 million yacht, the Alaska Beacon reported Saturday.“I’m on a...

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4674 "2026-08-09T00:53:22Z")

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I have no idea how private yachts operate but wouldn’t the hired captain of the ship be able to decide to rescue the stranded vessel no matter what the yacht owner wants to do?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4675 "2026-08-09T01:20:41Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I spend time on Virtual Railfan’s camera in Flagstaff.

Hey! Us, too. I even waved at the camera once when I was up there.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4676 "2026-08-09T02:00:15Z")

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Only if they didn’t care if they had a job.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4677 "2026-08-09T02:13:06Z")

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Isn’t coming to the aid of another vessel in trouble required by maritime law? Can he be held legally liable?

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4678 "2026-08-09T02:33:15Z")

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“He” as in Zuckerberg or the captain? Or both?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4679 "2026-08-09T05:44:29Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Isn’t coming to the aid of another vessel in trouble required by maritime law? Can he be held legally liable?

That’s what I was thinking, although I can imagine that someone like Zuckerberg might think that the vessel in distress was merely a pretext to an attempt at hijacking his yacht.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4680 "2026-08-09T06:12:12Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> That’s what I was thinking, although I can imagine that someone like Zuckerberg might think that the vessel in distress was merely a pretext to an attempt at hijacking his yacht.

Hijackers wan their targets isolated, not with the Coast Guard in the loop and other ships already in the area.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4681 "2026-08-09T06:19:53Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I can imagine that someone like Zuckerberg might think that the vessel in distress was merely a pretext to an attempt at hijacking his yacht.

I wonder how much of a concern high seas piracy is in the Gulf of Alaska these days.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4682 "2026-08-09T06:23:23Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Isn’t coming to the aid of another vessel in trouble required by maritime law?

Some quick Googling referred me to [46 US Code § 2304](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/46/2304);

> **(a)**
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> **(1**)A master or individual in charge of a vessel shall render assistance to any individual found at sea in danger of being lost, so far as the master or individual in charge can do so without serious danger to the master’s or individual’s vessel or individuals on board.
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> **(2**)Paragraph (1) does not apply to a vessel of war or a vessel owned by the United States Government appropriated only to a public service.
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> **(b**)A master or individual violating this section shall be fined not more than $1,000, imprisoned for not more than 2 years, or both.

So if they were capable of receiving the request from the Coast Guard (which they absolutely should have been) and deliberately ignored it, the captain could definitely be in some trouble.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4683 "2026-08-09T14:45:38Z")

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Will a GoFundMe be started to cover the $1,000 fine if Zuckerberg is found liable?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4684 "2026-08-09T15:59:12Z")

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Let him try to GoFundMe a prison sentence!

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2026, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4685 "2026-08-09T16:00:45Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Will a GoFundMe be started to cover the $1,000 fine if Zuckerberg is found liable?

Wouldn’t the yacht captain be the one subject to the fine and not the yacht owner?

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