# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 241
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4806 "2026-09-18T12:27:32Z")
I would like for @Alessan’s definition to be the universal one. But sadly, it is not. Which leaves us with state-sponsored terrorism, non-state actor terrorism, domestic terrorism, secret police terrorism, etc. And even our good ol’ home-grown stochastic terrorism. If the intent is to harm or scare the general public, it’s terrorism. Whether I / we like that definition or not. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4807 "2026-09-18T12:47:48Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Pound for pound, Piker’s being associated with El-Sayed’s Senate campaign is almost as bad news as an endorsement from Iran’s Mojtaba Khamenei would be. Yep. I don’t understand why he can’t just come out and say, “Piker is an extremely radical and I fully condemn him and his views; I didn’t know that these were his views when I made the decision to campaign with him; I made a mistake, I apologize for that, and I won’t do it again”. Instead he just deflects every single time with “When I talk to Michiganders, they don’t ask me about a streamer from California, they ask me about cost of living”. That’s a very weak deflection considering that Abdul El Sayed was the one who decided to invite a streamer from California to Michigan to campaign with him in the first place. Thankfully, many other Democrats _have_ been forcefully condemning Piker and his statements, which is great. Every right wing outlet has been calling Piker a “Democratic Spokesperson”, which is utter bullshit - the fucker shits on Democrats more than he shits on Republicans, even now with Trump in office. He’s not a Democrat and never had been. He refused to endorse Kamala over Trump and may not have even voted for her himself. There’s absolutely no reason for Democrats to be in any way conciliatory or friendly to someone who is just as much our enemy as MAGA is. Politically, being associated with his ilk is _disastrous_. We need to go scorched earth against them. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4808 "2026-09-18T13:56:52Z")
> **[A judge rejects Pamela Smart’s latest bid for a new trial in 1990 accomplice...](https://apnews.com/article/pamela-smart-new-hampshire-murder-164c18e7c8d823f8e888ce8b6ed93fcc)** > > A New Hampshire judge has dismissed Pamela Smart's latest petition for a new trial. Smart is serving a life sentence for orchestrating her husband's murder by her teenage student over three decades ago. In case you don’t quite remember the name: Pamela Smart, 59, was a 22-year-old high school media coordinator when she began an affair with the 15-year-old boy who she later pressured to fatally shoot her husband, Gregory Smart, in Derry in 1990 with help from three of his teenage friends. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4809 "2026-09-18T15:49:40Z")
I do remember her, primarily because of being struck by the incredible stupidity of hiring four teenagers to commit a murder and expecting that to go well. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4810 "2026-09-18T16:51:01Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > If the intent is to harm or scare the general public, it’s terrorism. Not disagreeing, but I think the “scare” part is more the goal than the actual harm done, and that you should add “for political purposes” to that. Maybe “to achieve increased political power” might be even better. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4811 "2026-09-18T16:57:42Z")
I agree w both your amendments. Much better with those points included. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2026, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4812 "2026-09-18T17:37:19Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > a 22-year-old high school media coordinator when she began an affair with the 15-year-old boy who she later pressured to fatally shoot her husband Isn’t that, like, exactly the plot of To Die For? ETA, nevermind, says so right in the article. > The case inspired Joyce Maynard’s 1992 book “To Die For” and the 1995 film of the same name, starring Nicole Kidman and Joaquin Phoenix. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4813 "2026-09-19T14:38:08Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > [https://apnews.com/article/pamela-smart-new-hampshire-murder-164c18e7c8d823f8e888ce8b6ed93fcc](https://apnews.com/article/pamela-smart-new-hampshire-murder-164c18e7c8d823f8e888ce8b6ed93fcc) > [@](#): > > Among the words they claimed weren’t audible but appeared in the transcript was the word…“murder” in the sentence “this would have been the perfect murder. Yeah, the actual sentence probably was “this would have been the perfect sandwich”. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4814 "2026-09-19T14:58:39Z")
In case anyone still doesn’t understand “pound for pound”: The US is, what, a hundred times bigger than al Qaeda? A thousand? So for us to be worse than them pound for pound, we’d have to kill a hundred or a thousand times more people than them. That said, the underlying point that the US does a lot of evil is correct. If Piker just screwed up the math in his comparison, that makes him a stupid MFer, not an evil MFer. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4815 "2026-09-19T15:47:39Z")
Getting the directional sense of a comparative idiom backwards is hardly rare. Like leaving an intended “not” out of a sentence, it’s a common human failing in both speech and writing. Doesn’t mean it’s not stupid to make stupid statements when you’re somebody with a substantial following to amplify your words. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4816 "2026-09-19T16:48:34Z")
Unfortunately, not surprising. > **[Sikh truck driver stabbed 17 times in unprovoked Wyoming attack raises fears...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/18/us/wyoming-sikh-truck-driver-stabbing)** > > A Sikh truck driver was stabbed more than a dozen times in an unprovoked attack by a man at a Wyoming rest stop, according to local officials, raising an alarm among Asian American advocates who are warning about inflammatory rhetoric against South... ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4817 "2026-09-19T17:10:11Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > In case anyone still doesn’t understand “pound for pound”: The US is, what, a hundred times bigger than al Qaeda? A thousand? So for us to be worse than them pound for pound, we’d have to kill a hundred or a thousand times more people than them. > > That said, the underlying point that the US does a lot of evil is correct. If Piker just screwed up the math in his comparison, that makes him a stupid MFer, not an evil MFer. > [@LSLGuy](#): > > Getting the directional sense of a comparative idiom backwards is hardly rare. I don’t know why we would make the assumption that he didn’t mean exactly what he said there. This is the same man who cheers and claps when watching videos of the Houthis boarding cargo ships and taking their mostly Filipino crew hostage, and who has said of Hezbollah, and this is a direct quote, “_I don’t have an issue with them, let’s just say_” - despite the fact that Hezbollah contributed to _five times more_ Arab deaths since 2011 _alone_ than the entire Arab-Israeli conflict did in a war that had absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I find it entirely plausible that Hasan meant exactly what he said. And even if he didn’t in this case, his prior statements on Hezbollah and the Houthis are _more than sufficient_ to put him in the Evil Motherfucker category. You want to talk about _stupid_, talk about the politicians who thought it was a good idea to campaign with this evil fuck. Thankfully, they’re distancing themselves from him now. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4818 "2026-09-19T17:49:11Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Kansas City reporter who was covering the Super Bowl for Telemundo, was found dead in his hotel room. He hooked up with the wrong woman. The hooker who caused his death has been found guilty of negligent homicide. > **[Woman found guilty of negligent homicide in Super Bowl reporter's death in...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/danette-colbert-guilty-death-adan-manzano-super-bowl/)** > > Danette Colbert​ was also convicted of racketeering following the death of Telemundo's Adan Manzano, who had been visiting New Orleans to cover the Super Bowl in 2025. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4819 "2026-09-20T02:57:35Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > you should add “for political purposes” to that. Maybe “to achieve increased political power” might be even better. I’d proposed amending “political power” to “ideological ends”, as I think that captures the full scope of terrorism drivers. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4820 "2026-09-20T22:29:05Z")
Football players assault younger football player, football coaches think it is no big deal. > **[4 Boyd High School students arrested in connection to hazing incident](https://www.fox4news.com/news/4-boyd-high-school-students-arrested-hazing-incident)** > > A hazing incident at Boyd High School earlier this month has led to the arrest of four students. > **[Arrest warrant affidavits shed light on Boyd High School football hazing...](https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/arrest-warrant-affidavits-shed-light-194450430.html)** > > Investigators spoke with several witnesses who corroborated the victim’s account of what happened inside the boys varsity locker room. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4821 "2026-09-20T22:37:21Z")
OK, those other things he said might be evil. I’m not familiar with him beyond what I’ve learned about him here. But the “pound for pound” statement was just stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4822 "2026-09-20T22:39:37Z")
The old expression was “Boys will be boys.” It was bullshit then and it’s bullshit now. This sounds like assault. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4823 "2026-09-20T22:41:48Z")
My high school said “Boys are boys. But they will be young men, and we expect them to act like it”. I like my high school. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4824 "2026-09-20T22:49:11Z")
Here’s what the lawyer for one of them said: > Stevens’ attorneys said in a statement Friday that this type of behavior has gone on for years at Boyd, and the incident should have been handled by the coaching staff. > > “Our client experienced similar locker room hijinks when he began playing football there,” the statement reads. “Context and culture matter. Before the public convicts a high school student, people should consider the facts, not just the claims.” > > The attorneys describe Stevens as “a good kid” who had just celebrated his 17th birthday. > > “The people who know him best stand behind him, and so do we,” the legal team from Varghese Summersett said in the statement. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/4825 "2026-09-21T00:58:52Z")
Also classic: > When the victim later reported the incident, members of the coaching staff told him the situation needed to be handled in the locker room and not reported further up. Wouldn’t want to put any future football careers in jeopardy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=240) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=242)