# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/821 "2024-03-13T17:43:09Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> But being able to rope another person in on it?

A friend can help you move. A good friend can help you move the body.

Or blow it up, as he case may be. Still, with the arrows, I am reminded of the episode of Hogan’s Heroes where they were trying to kill a traitor, and Carter comes up with “pygmy blow pipe!” Carter would have gone along with arrows, especially since he was part Native American. 🙂

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/822 "2024-03-13T21:59:40Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> Student beaten brutally in school bathroom, and dies the next day

I mistakenly got the impression from this discussion that Nex died of his injuries; this is false:

> A summary autopsy report shows 16-year-old Nex Benedict, who used they/them pronouns, had toxic levels of two drugs in their system and died of an overdose.
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> A complete autopsy will be released in 10 days in accordance with state law, the medical examiner’s office said.

> **[Death of nonbinary teen Nex Benedict after fight ruled a suicide, Oklahoma...](https://apnews.com/article/nonbinary-student-death-nex-benedict-oklahoma-owasso-88f403bfd5436a53b636dcc2bc59ebf8)**
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> The death of a nonbinary student the day after a fight inside an Oklahoma high school restroom has been ruled a suicide by the state medical examiner's office.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/823 "2024-03-13T22:17:25Z")

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Thank you for that report.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/824 "2024-03-13T22:53:01Z")

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Even if, as I strongly suspect, Mx. Benedict was a very dangerous person, they had two strikes against them from birth, and didn’t deserve this. RIP.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/825 "2024-03-13T23:35:21Z")

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Dangerous? To whom exactly other than themselves?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/826 "2024-03-14T00:48:04Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> I mistakenly got the impression from this discussion that Nex died of his injuries;

“their injuries”

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/827 "2024-03-15T11:10:03Z")

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A mother mixed up a drink for a kid who had been bullying her son. The bully got sent to the hospital. Intentionally sickening a child? What kind of lesson is she teaching her son (other than the wonders of chemistry)?

> **[Mother arrested after concocting drink for her son to give to school bully...](https://abcnews.go.com/US/mother-arrested-after-concocting-drink-son-give-school/story?id=107876249)**
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> A Texas mother has been arrested after a drink she made for her son's bully sent him to the hospital, according to the Bexar County Sheriff's Office.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/828 "2024-03-15T12:04:55Z")

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I’m not condoning that sort of thing, but I totally understand it and would not consider it “evil” as such. More “very poorly considered”.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/829 "2024-03-15T12:09:43Z")

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Yeah, I can see that. This one’s more evil. Eviler?

> **[Truck driver accused of killing pregnant Amish woman due for hearing in...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/truck-driver-accused-killing-pregnant-amish-woman-due-hearing-pennsylv-rcna143533)**
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> Shawn C. Cranston, 52, is accused of killing Rebekah Byler and her unborn child inside the Byler home near Spartansburg on Feb. 26.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/830 "2024-03-15T15:50:23Z")

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My reaction as well. When I read the ingredients, I assumed she thought it would be a “let’s see how much he likes this nasty-tasting but harmless concoction” lesson for the dickhead kid. If you had asked me if such a drink would send a kid to the hospital, I’d have said no. (To be clear, I wouldn’t recommend it!)

So, yeah, ill-considered. But I guess I’m a jerk because I’m not terribly sorry the bully had a shitty day if, in fact, there are no lingering problems.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/831 "2024-03-15T16:22:59Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> bully had a shitty day

Oh yes, I’m sure the bully did have that sort of day.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/832 "2024-03-15T17:54:29Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> When I read the ingredients, I assumed she thought it would be a “let’s see how much he likes this nasty-tasting but harmless concoction” lesson for the dickhead kid. If you had asked me if such a drink would send a kid to the hospital, I’d have said no. (To be clear, I wouldn’t recommend it!)

I’d be concerned about how much salt was ingested.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/833 "2024-03-15T19:04:50Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> I’d be concerned about how much salt was ingested.

If the drink was salty enough for that to be an issue (even for someone with extreme salt sensitivity (assuming that is a thing)), the bully probably couldn’t have ingested much.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/834 "2024-03-15T19:37:41Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> If the drink was salty enough for that to be an issue (even for someone with extreme salt sensitivity (assuming that is a thing)), the bully probably couldn’t have ingested much

True, but salt is far more toxic to small children than to adults.

[One example:](https://www.longdom.org/open-access/salt-poisoning-in-a-6yearold-child-a-case-report-58605.html#:~:text=%5B9%5D%20estimated%20that%20the%20lethal,level%20exceeds%20190%20mEq%2FL.)

> Using data from 2 children, Campbell et al. [[9](https://www.longdom.org/open-access/salt-poisoning-in-a-6yearold-child-a-case-report-58605.html#9)] estimated that the lethal dose of salt ingestion in children was less than 5 teaspoons.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/835 "2024-03-15T23:22:15Z")

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We’ve been discussing this extensively on a true-crime board. Naturally, our spidey-senses were aimed at her husband, but it looks like he had absolutely nothing to do with it.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/836 "2024-03-15T23:25:25Z")

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Considering that I haven’t heard any “They lit up a room with their presence” kind of comments from their classmates, I really hate to say this, but I suspect a lot of people are not sorry they’re gone.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/837 "2024-03-15T23:27:35Z")

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That’s a big jump from “dangerous.”

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/838 "2024-03-16T00:14:38Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> A mother mixed up a drink for a kid who had been bullying her son. The bully got sent to the hospital.

I’ll tell you what’s messed up about this story. When did we become a namby-pamby society where kids don’t have to poison their own bullies? “Oh, don’t worry, snowflake, Mommy’ll get revenge for you, and maybe even go to court instead of you…”

C’mon, dweebs, toughen up and plan a really clever revenge!

And if you’re smart enough, no one will know it wasn’t an accident… and _that’s_ a real-world education that’s worth more than K-12!

[/s]

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/839 "2024-03-16T00:22:51Z")

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Reading the article, it says the bullied kid gave the drink to the bully. Would there have been charges if he hadn’t given it to him but instead waited to see if the bully demanded it?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/840 "2024-03-17T00:32:24Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> If the drink was salty enough for that to be an issue (even for someone with extreme salt sensitivity (assuming that is a thing)), the bully probably couldn’t have ingested much.

“Sports drinks” can have a lot of sodium (and potassium) in them already, and are designed to have enough sweetener in them to hide the saltiness. Adding enough salt to one could raise the amount of salts to dangerous levels.

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