# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1001 "2024-04-18T17:22:21Z")

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Has multiple felony warrants and doesn’t hate the police? Possible, but not highly likely.

Now hate them enough to shoot at them, and simply think really poorly of the cops are two very different things.

Then again there are a few vids out there of guys saying “Dammit, I ain’t goin’ to jail again!” and proceeding to attack the cop who initiated the traffic stop. To results everywhere between cop dead and perp drives away unscathed to perp dead and cop drives away unscathed.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1002 "2024-04-18T18:57:27Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Has multiple felony warrants and doesn’t hate the police? Possible, but not highly likely.

“He doesn’t hate the police," (his sister) claimed noting, “He was always doing God’s work.”

He works in _really_ mysterious ways. 👼

> **[Patrick Hurst: Texas 'sovereign citizen' killed in police shootout while...](https://news.meaww.com/patrick-hurst-texas-sovereign-citizen-killed-in-police-shootout-while-livestreaming)**
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> Sheriff Ed Gonzalez linked Hurst's actions to the 'Sovereign Citizens Movement', an extremist anti-government faction

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1003 "2024-04-18T19:47:46Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> His sister disputes the sovcit part and says he was just mentally ill.

“sovcit” and “mentally ill” are not mutually exclusive.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1004 "2024-04-18T20:24:27Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “He doesn’t hate the police," (his sister) claimed noting, “He was always doing God’s work.”
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> He works in _really_ mysterious ways. 👼

Somehow your pithy comment made me think of the awesome line from _Blues Brothers_ where Elwood (Jake?) says “God, I hate Illinois Nazis!”.

But in my mental retelling it’s God saying “God, I hate Sovereign Citizens!” As He proceeds to creatively smite yet another one. Gleefully grinning all the way.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1005 "2024-04-18T20:29:51Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> > [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> > His sister disputes the sovcit part and says he was just mentally ill.
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> “sovcit” and “mentally ill” are not mutually exclusive.

I’m pretty sure that Venn diagram is fairly close to a circle.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1006 "2024-04-18T20:36:02Z")

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> [@Kron](#):
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> that Venn diagram is fairly close to a circle.

More of a circle within a circle. I’m sure there are many mentally ill people who avoid being sovcits.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1007 "2024-04-18T20:36:40Z")

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A “proper subset” in mathspeak.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1008 "2024-04-18T21:40:30Z")

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> [@Kron](#):
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> > [@Broomstick](#):
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> > > [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> > > His sister disputes the sovcit part and says he was just mentally ill.
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> > “sovcit” and “mentally ill” are not mutually exclusive.
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> I’m pretty sure that Venn diagram is fairly close to a circle.

Stupidity is not a mental illness. I’m sure that there are mentally ill sov cits, possibly in a higher proportion than the general public; but having illogical and erroneous beliefs is not in itself a symptom of mental illness.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1009 "2024-04-18T21:42:36Z")

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Blaming mental illness for having bad beliefs is a disservice to people with actual mental illness, and dismissive of the actual reasons why those beliefs persist. It’s willful ignorance and bigoted.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1010 "2024-04-19T11:39:00Z")

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If this student’s story is true (and I have no reason to doubt it), then this teacher certainly qualifies as evil.

> **[Ex-Indiana teacher accused of encouraging classmates to beat up 7-year-old...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-indiana-teacher-accused-encouraging-classmates-beat-7-year-old-disa-rcna148469)**
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> A lawsuit from the child's mother alleges the teacher recorded an incident on his cellphone.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1011 "2024-04-19T13:30:57Z")

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Today’s nominees: 1) the attendees at a Las Vegas conference for extremist sheriffs who aim to fight fantasy voter fraud (and the felons, buffoons and antivax loons who support them)

> **[A sheriff, a felon and a conspiracy theorist walk into a hotel. They’re there...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/constitutional-sheriffs-las-vegas-conference-rcna147487)**
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> The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association is urging lawmen to form posses, seize voting machines and investigate baseless claims of voter fraud.

and

1. [Stephen A. Smith](http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/04/18/stephen_a_smith_trump_wasnt_lying_when_he_said_black_folks_find_him_relatable_because_of_what_he_is_going_through.html), not content with being a loudmouthed sports jackass, now says black people stand behind Trump because they identify with his being targeted for criminal behavior.

“As much as people may have been abhorred by Donald Trump’s statement weeks ago talking about how black folks he is hearing that black folks find him relatable because of what he is going through it is similar to what black Americans have gone through he wasn’t lying, he was telling the truth…we relate to you when you are suffering like that”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1012 "2024-04-19T14:00:47Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I have to say, though, it would almost be funnier if it actually worked as advertised. Imagine all these people reversing the covid vaccine only to get covid and suffer the consequences of it.

Or, you know, dying very quickly, because their cells were no longer able to perform any of their basic functions. mRNA isn’t something humans invented.

> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Unfortunately, they’re not the only ones who would suffer the consequences. Being who they are, they would go everywhere coughing and spewing infection everywhere on everyone, and fomenting more mutations. That’s what we are supposed to have learned from the lockdown – they didn’t learn that, of course, not being able to learn, but we should have. The vaccine is not perfect protection for innocent bystanders.

There are an unfortunate number of people, predominantly right-wing, who see the world as black and white. If the vaccine doesn’t always offer perfect protection to everyone, then it’s completely useless.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1013 "2024-04-19T14:05:31Z")

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> **[Nirvana Fallacy](https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/cgi-bin/uy/webpages.cgi?%2Flogicalfallacies%2FNirvana-Fallacy)**
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> Comparing a realistic solution with an idealized one, and discounting or even dismissing the realistic solution as a result of comparing to a “perfect world” or impossible standard. Ignoring the fact that improvements are often good enough reason.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1014 "2024-04-19T15:43:22Z")

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See also: any electric vehicle thread.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1015 "2024-04-19T16:02:52Z")

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Honestly, both of those sound a lot more stupid than evil. Neither is going to accomplish anything, they are only useful to point and laugh at.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1016 "2024-04-21T03:15:06Z")

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Speaking of evil, Happy Birthday Adolf Hitler, thank you for killing Hitler.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1017 "2024-04-21T11:14:59Z")

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Yeah, but his timing sucked:

> **[Kill Hitler](https://xkcd.com/1063/)**
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> Revised directive: It is forbidden for you to interfere with human history until you've at least taken a class on it.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1018 "2024-04-21T22:14:23Z")

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Well, this guy’s definitely gonna grow up to be a serial killer - he stole his grandpa’s pistol, broke into the home of a man he never met, and shot and killed him in his sleep.

Oh, and he was _7 years old_ at the time, so he can’t be charged with the murder because he was too young to be criminally culpable under state law.

> **[10-year-old Texas boy tells investigators he killed man 2 years ago. He can't...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/10-year-old-claims-killed-man-texas-no-charges/)**
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> Texas state law says a child under the age of 10 doesn't have criminal culpability, law enforcement said.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1019 "2024-04-21T22:44:03Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> thank you for killing Hitler

Shows you deep down inside there’s a little good in anybody.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1020 "2024-04-21T23:33:14Z")

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Except for Ronald Reagan. There was no good in him.

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