# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1021 "2024-04-21T23:38:48Z")

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And Michael J. Fox has no Elvis in him.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1022 "2024-04-22T21:53:19Z")

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But back in the '50s, he had some Chuck Berry in him…

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1023 "2024-04-23T13:58:09Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Here’s a local one for me.  
> Two weeks ago someone found a human leg (about 2 miles from my house). Someone was arrested a few days later. They then found another body part in an entirely different part of the county about 10 miles away and another near that one and have since connected it with a missing woman and a torched car.

Update on this: Community wide searches have found more of her body parts. A search of his house revealed blood “on bedding in one of the bedrooms and on the walls leading toward the basement” that didn’t match hers.

It’s beginning to look like they may have caught a serial killer, or at the very least, there’s at least one other victim out there.

> **[Maxwell Anderson pleads not guilty to killing Sade Robinson; blood found in...](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2024/04/22/maxwell-anderson-to-make-court-appearance-in-sade-robinsons-killing-body-parts/73343807007/)**
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> Maxwell Anderson was arraigned in the killing of Sade Robinson, 19. He'll be back in court May 16.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1024 "2024-04-26T17:56:46Z")

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This guy does seem pretty guilty of being a huge creepo, anyway.

> **[Kansas murder suspect uses wife's life insurance payout to buy a sex doll](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kristen-trickle-colby-trickle-kansas-murder-suspect-uses-wifes-life-insurance-buy-sex-doll/)**
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> After Kristen Trickle died at her home in Kansas, her husband Colby Trickle received over $120,000 in life insurance benefits and spent nearly $2,000 on a sex doll supposedly to help him sleep.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1025 "2024-04-26T20:18:27Z")

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A Trickle’s gotta tickle his pickle somehow.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1026 "2024-04-26T20:33:30Z")

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LBJ: “I used to pick my dog up by the ears in front of the press”  
Mitt Romney: “Yeah, well I strapped my dog to the roof of the car for a road trip”  
Kristi Noem: “Hold my beer”

> **['I hated that dog': Kristi Noem recalls gunning down family's 'worthless' pup](https://www.rawstory.com/kristi-noem-dog/)**
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> South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, a frontrunner to be named as Donald Trump's running mate, admitted to killing her family dog for misbehavior.The Republican governor wrote in her forthcoming memoir, No Going Back: The Truth on What’s Wrong with...

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1027 "2024-04-26T20:55:05Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Kristi Noem: “Hold my beer”

If the story is true, I can’t blame her for killing the dog on the spot. A chicken-killing dog will certainly kill more chickens if presented with the opportunity.

Now, killing the goat immediately thereafter is not something I would condone.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1028 "2024-04-26T21:51:14Z")

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Maybe the goat framed the dog and she only found out later.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1029 "2024-04-26T22:21:33Z")

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Killing the dog was pragmatic.

Killing the goat was personal.

(Or maybe she killed the goat because it was a witness.)

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1030 "2024-04-27T00:31:47Z")

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Can’t decide if this is stupid or evil, but since someone died due to it, I’ll go for evil

> **[Owner of exploded Michigan building arrested at airport while trying to leave...](https://www.gazettextra.com/news/nation_world/owner-of-exploding-michigan-building-arrested-at-airport-while-trying-to-leave-us-authorities-say/article_fcd54bfb-3d71-50d1-b00e-a401291a8485.html)**
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> The owner of a suburban Detroit business that caught fire and exploded, killing a man, was arrested at a New York airport as he was preparing to depart for Hong Kong on a one-way ticket.

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> The March 4 fire and explosion occurred in a Clinton Township building that housed a distributor for the vaping industry called Goo. More than 100,000 vape pens were stored on-site. Authorities have said a truckload of butane canisters had arrived at the building within a week of the explosion that sent cannisters soaring up to 2 miles (3.2 kilometers), and more than half of that stock was still there when the fire began.

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> Turner Lee Salter, 19, was about a quarter of a mile (0.40 kilometers) away when he was struck by a nitrous oxide cannister that was propelled through the air by the explosion. Salter later died.

Might have been just a tragic industrial accident but the owner running out and trying to catch a flight to Hong Kong is just a wee bit suspicious that he knows something about the accident that made him want to be elsewhere.

Minor compared to some of the other horrific stories mentioned in this thread, but thought it was worth a mention.

Press on.

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**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1031 "2024-04-27T13:43:27Z")

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No–taking the dog to a shelter is pragmatic. Hiring a trainer is pragmatic. Shooting it is a crime where I live.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1032 "2024-04-27T14:07:27Z")

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According to what I read, she did not kill the dog on the spot. She wrote the owners of the chickens a check then took the dog to another location. She then went and got the goat.

She had plenty of time to do something with the dog other than shoot it.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1033 "2024-04-27T16:11:27Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> She had plenty of time to do something with the dog other than shoot it.

I don’t necessarily disagree with this statement, but what were her options?

Speaking as a farm boy, I can tell you that no other farmers in the area are going to take a non-trained hunting dog that has developed a blood lust for domestic poultry or other farm animals. If she had taken it to a shelter, perhaps somebody would have eventually adopted it, but the dog was definitely a liability on a farm.

I know I’m in the definite minority on this issue, but I can understand her actions regarding the dog.

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**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1034 "2024-04-27T16:18:04Z")

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Options include training, rehoming, fencing, invisible fencing and just possibly humane euthanasia. Shooting a dog that is _actively_ predating livestock is certainly heard of in the western US, but this is inhumane and likely ilegal.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1035 "2024-04-27T16:21:13Z")

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One can debate whether euthanizing a livestock killing dog is better than seeking some workable alternative – and a lot would depend on an objective assessment of whether the dog can be salvaged – but executing a billy goat for being what he was? And then writing about it proudly (oh, yes, she’s proud, despite any weak-ass disclaimers) is just despicable.

ETA: Given how she characterized both animals and her feelings about them, I believe her real motive was simply hatred and desire to kill.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1036 "2024-04-27T16:23:23Z")

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> [@Tride](#):
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> Shooting a dog that is _actively_ predating livestock is certainly heard of in the western US, but this is inhumane and likely ilegal.

I personally am aware of at least 3 dogs who were shot by their owners because they were attacking the sheep of a nearby farmer. Granted, the incidents occurred several decades ago, but I doubt it this was illegal.

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**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1037 "2024-04-27T16:42:01Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I personally am aware of at least 3 dogs who were shot by their owners because they were attacking the sheep of a nearby farmer.

Is this some sort of Code of The Countryside? That if you own a dog that is killing your neighbors’ livestock, you kill it?

I’m not being snarky or obtuse or setting up a gotcha or whatever. I’m genuinely curious, as this thread is the first I’ve heard of such a thing.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1038 "2024-04-27T16:48:21Z")

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> [@HeyHomie](#):
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> That if you own a dog that is killing your neighbors’ livestock, you kill it?

Pretty much, yes.

You have to remember that farm dogs run free…they aren’t chained or fenced in, at least when I was a farm kid. And once a dog kills, it will kill again.

In the incidents that I described above, the owner of the sheep chased the dogs away, then followed them to their homes. The dogs’ owners, without hesitation, shot the dogs.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1039 "2024-04-27T17:16:16Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I don’t necessarily disagree with this statement, but what were her options?
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> Speaking as a farm boy, I can tell you that no other farmers in the area are going to take a non-trained hunting dog that has developed a blood lust for domestic poultry or other farm animals.

Interestingly, many dogs are re-homed in areas far away from where they originated. Rescue organizations will pick up a dog like this, and find a home for it, likely where there are no chickens anywhere about. Probably in a place called “a city”. You may have heard of them.  
One.  
Phone.  
Call.  
And the problem is solved.

It’s a True Fact that there are people who own dogs who do not live on farms.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1040 "2024-04-27T17:18:33Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> And once a dog kills, it will kill again.

And this nugget is simply not true.

I guess it’s true if you don’t have a fucking clue about how to train a dog, and just think they automatically come with obedience to commands built into their software.

There are people around who don’t train their dogs and then are surprised when their dogs do things that are not good. These people are fucking idiots.

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