# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1181 "2024-06-03T23:44:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You just have to check their bank accounts. Unless they were warned to keep the briefcases full of cash hidden in the closet until after the trial was over. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1182 "2024-06-04T00:01:58Z")
If anything, I’d want to dismiss every juror except her. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1183 "2024-06-04T01:19:04Z")
Can you check the bank accounts of their whole family? Friends? I really don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1184 "2024-06-04T01:34:23Z")
Plus depositing $120,000 is going to trigger a filing with the federal government. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1185 "2024-06-04T01:55:59Z")
I would guess that she’s been the only juror approached thus far, because you only need one to hang a jury. And I would also guess that the other members of the jury have been grilled rather intensely by the judge and prosecutors to find out if anybody has tried to bribe them. Again, just a guess on my part. With 40 million at your disposal, who knows? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1186 "2024-06-04T02:08:54Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > If anything, I’d want to dismiss every juror except her.   Very smart! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1187 "2024-06-04T02:10:18Z")
[Here](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/31/realestate/race-home-buying-raven-baxter.html?unlocked_article_code=1.xE0.w6JQ.BuQ5qHyKId85&smid=url-share) is a new one (I think); a woman who was living in Alexandria, Virginia made an offer on a house in Virginia Beach. The offer was accepted and she even made a down payment, but when the buyer visited the house for the first time she was introduced to the seller. Shortly thereafter, the seller “informed her agent that she was not willing to sell her home to a person who is Black and she wished to cancel the sale.” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1188 "2024-06-04T02:14:43Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > If anything, I’d want to dismiss every juror except her. ISTM her reporting this incident might give the impression she’s biased _against_ the defendent now. Of coure, had the defendent and/or his partners in crime not pulled this stunt, that wouldn’t’ve been an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1189 "2024-06-04T02:57:21Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Shortly thereafter, the seller “informed her agent that she was not willing to sell her home to a person who is Black and she wished to cancel the sale.” I don’t blame the seller, you know those minorities are lazy and uneducated freeloaders. Per the article: > Dr. Baxter, who works remotely for Mt. Sinai hospital in New York, currently shares a rented apartment in Alexandria, Va., with her boyfriend, Dr. Ronald Gamble Jr., 35, a theoretical astrophysicist. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1190 "2024-06-04T03:00:40Z")
Apparently, the elderly seller’s family (grown children) plus the selling agents were able to reverse the decision, and the sale is proceeding. So, not to minimize the awful emotional impact of being treated that way, this was one old lady living in the past, not a wink-wink conspiracy of silence to go along with it. I don’t know if I would feel better knowing that, if I were that buyer. She still wants the property and it looks like she’s going to get it. I hope she gets much joy out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1191 "2024-06-04T03:18:17Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I don’t know if I would feel better knowing that, if I were that buyer. She still wants the property and it looks like she’s going to get it. I hope she gets much joy out of it. I’d feel great if I were her and I think she’ll love it. > Perched on a hill with a view of the Atlantic Ocean, the condo in Virginia Beach was just what Dr. Raven Baxter wanted. It had a marble fireplace, a private foyer and details like crown molding and wainscoting in its three bedrooms and three bathrooms. > > At $749,000, it was within her budget, too. > After a divorce two years ago, she was eager to own a home outright, and Dr. Gamble encouraged her to find a house near the beach, which has long been a dream of hers. > “It’s a classic home with a ton of character. It’s absolutely gorgeous and you can walk to the beach. It was like a steal,” she said. “I basically put in an offer sight unseen.” I’d feel vindication every time I step through the doors. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1192 "2024-06-04T03:47:01Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I’d feel great if I were her I don’t know you, but I’ll guess you aren’t a minority woman. If you haven’t experienced that kind of mindless kneejerk negation from a stranger (I realize this is going to sound condescending, and since I don’t know you I don’t know what you have experienced) it can be very hurtful, especially when it is so unexpected. I have had that feeling, and not so long ago. I hope that it didn’t strike her that deeply. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1193 "2024-06-04T04:32:04Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I don’t know you, but I’ll guess you aren’t a minority woman. You’re right, but the impression I got from everything in that article is that she was determined to get that house and to hell with the bigot trying to illegally stop her. > Dr. Baxter turned to social media just after midnight on Saturday. She was defiant, ending her post with, “Baby, I’m either buying your house or buying YOUR BLOCK. CHOOSE ONE.” And you’re telling me that she won’t feel good getting the house? I call bullshit. That’s not to say there was no pain or sickness or anything on getting the news that someone wanted to not sell it to her based on the color of her skin, but she got the dream house she fought for. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1194 "2024-06-04T06:47:20Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > the bigot trying to illegally stop her. Businesses can’t make business decisions (e.g. hiring, sales, admittance to business premises) that discriminate against protected classes. But is a private citizen selling private property subject to the same law? Everything I see about racial discrimination in housing seems to be referring to real estate agents, banks, and, appraisers, but not explicitly toward sellers. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1195 "2024-06-04T06:55:38Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > So, not to minimize the awful emotional impact of being treated that way, this was one old lady living in the past, not a wink-wink conspiracy of silence to go along with it. If I understood the article correctly, not only was it one old bigot, but also a realtor (or two?) that did not completely follow the law in the first place when said old bigot pulled her “living in the past” stunt. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1196 "2024-06-04T06:56:07Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > Everything I see about racial discrimination in housing seems to be referring to real estate agents, banks, and, appraisers, but not explicitly toward sellers. It makes an exception for a direct sale from an owner without an agent, but there was an agent involved in this transaction. [https://www.hud.gov/program\_offices/fair\_housing\_equal\_opp/fair\_housing\_act\_overview](https://www.hud.gov/program_offices/fair_housing_equal_opp/fair_housing_act_overview) Note that in this story the agents involved (on both sides) were quick to ensure that no, this woman was not discriminated against. That might have been to cover their own asses. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1197 "2024-06-04T06:58:20Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > But is a private citizen selling private property subject to the same law? Never mind, this was pretty clear the answer is yes): [https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public\_education/resources/law\_issues\_for\_consumers/homefha\_refuse/](https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_education/resources/law_issues_for_consumers/homefha_refuse/) So once the seller declared that she would not sell because of the buyer’s race, she was either going to sell or get sued for a pretty penny. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1198 "2024-06-04T12:20:15Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That might have been to cover their own asses. Yes, or because it was illegal. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1199 "2024-06-04T12:37:52Z")
The NYT article says that the agents advised the buyer to remove an inspection contingency addendum from the offer, despite knowing that the AC system needed to be replaced, though I don’t know if she did remove that or if it meant that she was therefore unaware of any other issues with the house. Or even if it would have mattered; the buyer seemed to be really motivated to buy that house, despite the AC issues. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1200 "2024-06-04T13:17:47Z")
$750,000 for a three bedroom in a nice city, within walking distance of the beach? I’d be damn motivated, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=61)