# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1361 "2024-06-15T04:25:55Z")
That’s especially true of alcohol-impaired drivers, of which there are more on the roads after dark. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1362 "2024-06-15T05:43:13Z")
I’ve only been hit on my bike twice, and both times were drivers who decided to turn in front of me, in broad daylight. No significant injuries either time, even though on the most recent incident the driver literally ran over my arm and left tire impressions on it but managed to avoid breaking anything. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1363 "2024-06-15T12:20:40Z")
I had a discussion once with a car fan. He felt that he had more freedom (because he could go anywhere he wanted (as long as he stays on a narrow strip of road that someone else laid out)) and spent more time outside (outside being interpreted rather loosely) than those poor city dwellers who walked from place to place (sidewalks are not outside) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1364 "2024-06-15T18:03:48Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Prescott, Ariz. aka trumplandia. IIRC Kingman is worse. And just as [hypocritical](https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/04/us/arizona-groundwater-regulation-megafarms-climate/index.html). ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1365 "2024-06-15T23:10:23Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > And just as [hypocritical](https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/04/us/arizona-groundwater-regulation-megafarms-climate/index.html). And m=y idiot trump-licking MAGAt congressmen was instrumental in selling water rights to the Saudis so they can grow alfalfa. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1366 "2024-06-15T23:23:28Z")
Key quote from that article: > [@](#): > > “It is very easy to demonize them because they are large, but the farms would also not locate somewhere they don’t believe are sustainable,” Chelsea McGuire, government relations director for the Arizona Farm Bureau, told CNN. While McGuire said she sympathizes with local officials’ concerns about running out of water, “I simply disagree with the math.” Yup, if the math shows that farming in a desert isn’t sustainable, then just ignore the math, and the problem will go away. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1367 "2024-06-15T23:50:57Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Yup, if the math shows that farming in a desert isn’t sustainable, then just ignore the math, and the problem will go away. She’s probably looking at the financial math rather than the hydrological. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1368 "2024-06-16T04:16:10Z")
As always, follow the money. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1369 "2024-06-16T11:02:36Z")
Obviously the criminal here is the truly evil one, but in addition I have to call out the sheriff. Press conferences about a murder are not the place to air your criticisms of border policy IMHO. > **[Man wanted in woman's killing in El Salvador arrested in Maryland hiker's death](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-wanted-el-salvador-killing-arrested-murder-maryland-hiker-rcna157375)** > > A March 2023 home invasion in California in which a 9-year-old girl was assaulted helped lead to an arrest in the killing of Rachel Morin in Maryland, the sheriff said. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1370 "2024-06-16T13:08:47Z")
I’m so upset about this. It happened six miles from my house. I was at an adjacent park with my husband, my son, my boss and her daughter. We had a play date with our kids. The shooting happened around the time we left the park. I was talking to my boss about it, she said you know I almost suggested we meet at the splash pad because my daughter loves to play there. And the more I think about it, I think she did mention it, and I responded something like, “We could try it. But my son hates getting splashed,” at which point we settled on the adjacent park. Thank God I’ve got a kid with sensory issues. That’s how close we came to being at that place at that time. I keep wondering if the shooter was driving around scoping out local parks before he settled on the splash pad. I wonder if he drove by my family playing hide and seek on the playground and thought about killing my family but for whatever reason decided against it. I have no evidence of that, I just keep thinking what if. This is really fucking with me. I have a problem, I have PTSD and I used to worry about random shootings all the time, but I put that behind me, I got to a place where I could feel safe most of the time. And right now I don’t feel that way. My husband wanted to go to the park again today, and I just don’t know if I can. I’m enraged this asshole took his own life. Nothing pisses me off more when people avoid accountability for their own evil acts. But I predicted he would when I heard SWAT had him barricaded. Oh, and this is the third shooting we’ve had to deal with in some way. Oxford required my husband to do crisis intervention and MSU killed my cousin’s cousin. I’m so exhausted of the whole thing. > **[Police search for motive after apparent ‘random’ shooting at Michigan...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/16/us/police-investigation-shooting-saturday-michigan-nine-injured/index.html)** > > Police are looking for a motive after at least nine people were shot in what appears to be a ‘random’ shooting that sent panicked families fleeing a crowded recreation area in Rochester Hills, Michigan, Saturday afternoon, authorities said. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1371 "2024-06-16T16:50:31Z")
Oh, Jesus, @Spice_Weasel, I can’t even imagine. I can understand why you’re traumatized by this, though. Sending virtual support, for what it’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1372 "2024-06-17T14:18:16Z")
Spice Weasel’s major concern about local safety reminded me of something only tangentially related. Sometimes I’ve talked with my local officials about dealing with neighborhood violence. I know of some ideas about warding off violence that have been actually taken up by officials at various levels. These ideas wouldn’t necessarily work in different locales. The one thing I’ve noticed is useful in our community is to build up long-term relationships with officials in the community. I hope that people can take time to do this before they ask for a solution to be implemented. I’ve ended up spending time doing this when I would have rather been home with my family. I understand it’s a lot to ask or suggest from other people. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1373 "2024-06-17T16:36:53Z")
That’s a really good point. In my line of work for a nonprofit DV/SA organization we have an entire department whose job it is to form those relationships with law enforcement, legislators, community organizations, courts, and more. They educate people about the dynamics of gender-based violence and natural responses to trauma, what to look for, how to do suspect exams. They train staff across the community. It works. We met with the county the other day for a grant I’m administering and by the end we had plans to do trainings for county staff, who had recently lost one of their best people to domestic violence homicide. It’s so anathema to the dominant narrative that seems to believe screaming at someone about what a bigot they are is going to move the needle in any way. In my direct experience, that’s not how social change happens. It happens by building relationships. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1374 "2024-06-18T01:54:49Z")
An Uber driver kidnapped and attempted to rape an intoxicated woman whose friends had ordered a ride home for her. He was fortunately thwarted when the victim’s father followed the location signal from her phone and caught him in the act, leading to the driver being severely beaten and fleeing the scene before being arrested. [https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/rideshare-driver-beaten-found-raping-woman-court-docs/281-16ee4c37-4e91-40b0-a8b8-856ee1d6873e](https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/rideshare-driver-beaten-found-raping-woman-court-docs/281-16ee4c37-4e91-40b0-a8b8-856ee1d6873e) I take Uber home from work three nights a week and there’s a good chance I’ve been in the perp’s car, so I’m eager to see more info on this case. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1375 "2024-06-18T07:03:13Z")
This guy’s in Thurston County but goes to an Islamic center all the way up in Tukwila? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1376 "2024-06-18T07:07:50Z")
I occasionally get Uber drivers from Seattle or Tacoma who wound up bringing a fare from the airport down to Olympia and then decide to do a few runs around here before heading back up north, since there are fewer drivers here and I think people tend to go further distances here than they do in the more densely populated cities. I’ve also had drivers tell me they prefer working down here because the clientele isn’t as sketchy as in Tacoma or south King County. Presumably this guy is one of them, since we’ve got at least two mosques/Islamic centers (not sure what the difference in terminology means) in town that I know of. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1377 "2024-06-18T08:05:18Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’ve also had drivers tell me they prefer working down here because the clientele isn’t as sketchy as in Tacoma or south King County. I work in Tacoma and live in south King County. That all checks out. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1378 "2024-06-18T11:36:09Z")
Extra-stupid crooks commit crimes on people who already know them. Ordinary stupid crooks commit crimes right near home. Slightly less-stupid crooks commute a few miles, or even a bunch of miles, to commit their crimes. It helps them evade capture a little. Not a lot, but some. Sometimes. I’ve mentioned it before but back when I was in IT many of our customers were big city police departments. I learned a lot about policing in that job; some of which was obvious, some of which was not. If the burglary or robbery detail notices a sudden cluster of crimes in a few block area, simply check the home address of everyone released from jail about when the cluster started. And their Mom’s address too. Then go pick up the recent releasee who lives in the cluster. There’s usually only one and it’s probably him. Who in turn is probably a “him”. Simple, but it works. Not that they then railroad whoever they go get, just that very often this technique amounts to going fishing where they’re biting, not where they aren’t. Who knew? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1379 "2024-06-18T21:36:40Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I take Uber home from work three nights a week and there’s a good chance I’ve been in the perp’s car, so I’m eager to see more info on this case. I’m betting it’s not the first time he’s done this. ---
**Author:** ![kferr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kferr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kferr)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1380 "2024-06-20T12:48:12Z")
I’ve taken driving tests in two US states and in Britain and the UK test is far more comprehensive. I did the US tests in the late 70’s and the UK test in 1995 so don’t know what the tests are like now. In the US it was basically driving around the block a couple times to prove you could control the car and not run any stop signs. Here the test includes going on roads with different speed limits, emergency stops, and three point turns. Getting used to driving on the wrong side of the car was harder than getted used to driving on the wrong side of the road. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=68) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=70)