# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 71
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1401 "2024-06-20T21:22:07Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I just pull into a driveway And then you back out and go the way you were coming, right? That’s a three point turn. You used a driveway to make it easier, but it’s the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1402 "2024-06-20T21:42:15Z")
My Mom at 88yo decided it was time to stop driving. But she needed ID. I think Colorado just mailed one too her or something. It was stupid. She recognized that she should no longer drive. Reflexes gone, sight failing. But she got a drivers license. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1403 "2024-06-20T21:50:28Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > You used a driveway to make it easier, but it’s the same thing. Yeah, I know. I’ve just never done a three point turn in the apparently legally appropriate way. The woman in the video I watched said you must not ever pull into a driveway because that is private property so now I feel like a scofflaw. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1404 "2024-06-20T21:59:29Z")
The part of the driveway parallel with the sidewalk is either public property of a public easement. Assuming there’s a sidewalk there. When I use a driveway, I don’t go up farther than that. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1405 "2024-06-20T22:00:25Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > The woman in the video I watched said you must not ever pull into a driveway because that is private property so now I feel like a scofflaw. Nothing is illegal if you don’t get caught! (Warning: Do not say that during the driver’s test.) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1406 "2024-06-20T22:42:06Z")
I got my license thanks to a computer error. It asked a series of questions, which I mostly got right. Then it started asking in Spanish, which I do not speak. I mentioned it to someone and they pressed a few buttons and the questions were English again….and also the ones I’d already answered. I didn’t mention that to anyone. 😁 Thankfully I was better at the driving part. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1407 "2024-06-20T22:42:56Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > > [@LurkMeister](#): > > > > I decided I was going to just keep renewing my license until the state required my to take the driving test > > Does any state require you to retake the driving portion? I’ve moved states twice, and Kansas believed Minnesota that I knew how to drive (and also how to drive a motorcycle), and Missouri believed Kansas. Written test in Kansas, I don’t remember for sure about Missouri, but presumably a written one there also. > > I still have a motorcycle endorsement, but I haven’t been on a bike since probably 1981. When I moved from California to Oregon, they didn’t even ask me to take a written test. AND they let me keep my REALID endorsement without jumping through a lot of extra hoops. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1408 "2024-06-20T22:48:06Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > My stepfather, at the age of 90, had to retake a Minnesota driving test after moving two miles east from South Dakota into Minnesota. Because of his age, perhaps? The only question he got wrong on the written exam was _When do you need to stop for a pedestrian?_ The corr3ct answer is _ **Always** _. I wonder what the other options were. _When they are in a crosswalk When you like them well enough to not want them dead When you know each other well enough that he’d probably be able to identify you_ ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1409 "2024-06-20T23:01:54Z")
I’d say “when my brakes are malfunctioning” would be an acceptable exception. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1410 "2024-06-20T23:56:49Z")
Continuing the hijack, but I always thought that ‘3-point turn’ was 1 point too many. You are at the right side of the road, crank the wheel all the way to the left, make a turn until your front wheels are at the curb and stop. Point 1. Put the car in reverse, crank the wheel all the way to the right, back up until your rear wheels are at the curb and stop. Point 2. Turn the wheels to the left and drive away. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1411 "2024-06-21T00:18:00Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > The only question he got wrong on the written exam was _When do you need to stop for a pedestrian?_ The corr3ct answer is _ **Always** _. But officer, the pedestrian was three miles away down a different side street! ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1412 "2024-06-21T00:51:30Z")
Returning to evil folk- this guy is clearly in need of some help. The pictures aren’t NSFW, but they’re sad. > **[Bus in Pennsylvania found carrying animals used for alleged bestiality;...](https://katv.com/amp/news/nation-world/school-bus-bestiality-animal-abuse-allegations-pennsylvania-west-virginia-driver-arrested-chickens-fed-dogs-bull-pony-warrant-adams-county-spca-obscene-materials-)** > > Dozens of animals are now being cared for by the Adams County SPCA after a disabled vehicle call in Pennsylvania became something much more shocking. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1413 "2024-06-21T01:20:16Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > You are at the right side of the road, crank the wheel all the way to the left, make a turn until your front wheels are at the curb and stop. Point 1. Put the car in reverse, crank the wheel all the way to the right, back up until your rear wheels are at the curb and stop. Point 2. Turn the wheels to the left and drive away. That’s 3 points. You just described a three point turn. 1: > crank the wheel all the way to the left, make a turn until your front wheels are at the curb and stop 2: > crank the wheel all the way to the right, back up until your rear wheels are at the curb and stop 3: > Turn the wheels to the left You just described the three points of a three point turn. You just didn’t number them all. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1414 "2024-06-21T01:43:42Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > You just described the three points of a three point turn. Not if I don’t come to a stop before my first turn. That’s the way I make a 3-point turn, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1415 "2024-06-21T01:47:36Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Not if I don’t come to a stop before my first turn. I don’t see how that makes a difference. I generally don’t stop either. The key isn’t stopping, it’s turning to the side so that you can make your car perpendicular (at least somewhat) before reversing into the opposite direction, then finally going back into drive to head off into the opposite direction you started in. Here’s even a picture of a classic three point turn that matches what you described: [![](https://media-blog.zutobi.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/07140202/how-to-do-a-three-point-turn-scaled.jpg?w=2560&auto=format&ixlib=next&fit=max) ](https://media-blog.zutobi.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/12/07140202/how-to-do-a-three-point-turn-scaled.jpg?w=2560&auto=format&ixlib=next&fit=max) I mean, if nothing else you seem to be doing it correctly. ---
**Author:** ![kferr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kferr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kferr)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1416 "2024-06-21T08:36:25Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Does any state require you to retake the driving portion? I was 17 when we moved from Iowa to Missouri which is why I had to retake the driving test. There was no retake when I moved to Nebraska or when I moved from there to Kansas. When I moved to Texas I had to do the computerized written part. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1417 "2024-06-21T12:30:20Z")
> [@LurkMeister](#): > > this was before online renewals were possible It’s probably because I’m an old, crotchety boomer, but online DL renewal means no vision test, and that scares me. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1418 "2024-06-21T13:33:17Z")
I’m not sure what the current DL renewal policies are here at various ages, since I don’t drive. What I did find annoying was not being able to renew my state ID card online a few years ago. This was during the pandemic, and I had to make an appointment with the DMV office. This required me to take two busses each way, which tied up most of the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1419 "2024-06-21T13:44:21Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > but online DL renewal means no vision test In my state, drivers over 75 must renew every 5 years in person, and that includes a vision test. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1420 "2024-06-21T19:33:09Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > In my state, drivers over 75 must renew every 5 years in person, and that includes a vision test. In Nebraska: … Specifically, Nebraska: **requires drivers age 72 and older to renew their licenses in person** , and. accepts requests from family members and others for the DMV to conduct unsafe driver investigations… New picture, vision test and the Drivers License staff can decide you need to take either the written test or driving test, at their discretion. It’s a pain because you have to go on line and make an appt on a website that is awkward and very non-intuitive, as only governmental websites can be. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=70) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=72)