# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1501 "2024-06-30T14:23:40Z")

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That poor boy. The article says he only weighed 18lbs at the time of his death …he was 6 years old. My son weighed more than that at 9 _months_.

Heartbreaking.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1502 "2024-06-30T15:24:54Z")

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In the Ron Howard movie Parenthood, Keanu Reeves’ character memorably says, “You need a license to buy a dog or drive a car. Hell, you need a license to catch a fish! But they’ll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.”

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1503 "2024-06-30T15:26:48Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Some (family) trees just bear poison fruit.

The article mentions that this man (the father of the boy who was starved to death) had had a traumatic childhood, but with no details. So he was probably passing forward (with prejudice) what he learned at the hands of his own parents. Whatever poison comes from one generation can be passed on to the next, but in my limited experience it is usually softened by other influences.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1504 "2024-07-01T09:29:01Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> The article mentions that this man (the father of the boy who was starved to death) had had a traumatic childhood, but with no details. So he was probably passing forward (with prejudice) what he learned at the hands of his own parents. Whatever poison comes from one generation can be passed on to the next, but in my limited experience it is usually softened by other influences.

It’s one thing to have poor impulse control, .e.g. to smack your kid in a moment of intense frustration. While that would be unacceptable and in need of redress, it’s a whole different thing to maintain, for a month, that you’ve made a good decision by locking your kids in a closet without food. That’s not a parent who has poor impulse control due to a traumatic upbringing, that’s an evil motherfucker in the truest spirit of this thread.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1505 "2024-07-01T13:07:14Z")

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On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind having a collection of these incidents, where the accused said they had an abusive childhood, to shove in the faces of those that say “My parents didn’t spare the rod and look how well I turned out!”.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1506 "2024-07-01T13:12:23Z")

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My kickboxing teacher is a “spare the rod/spoil the child” type in regards to children as his father taught him. I’ve refrained from pointing out that he now teaches people how to punch each other.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1507 "2024-07-01T13:43:25Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> The article mentions that this man (the father of the boy who was starved to death) had had a traumatic childhood, but with no details. So he was probably passing forward (with prejudice) what he learned at the hands of his own parents. Whatever poison comes from one generation can be passed on to the next, but in my limited experience it is usually softened by other influences.

Tradition has it that healing takes seven generations.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1508 "2024-07-01T15:11:21Z")

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No argument here. I hope my post did not appear like an attempted justification of these parents’ behavior.

> [@Chronos](#):
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> Tradition has it that healing takes seven generations.

I’m not familiar with that tradition. I would imagine that the process is quite different for each person and family. At this point, I hope that some resources will go to helping the surviving son heal.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1509 "2024-07-01T15:24:18Z")

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Hm, I thought it was a reference to a Bible verse, saying that the sins of the father would be visited on the sons, to the seventh generation. But it looks like the actual verse says “the third and fourth generation”. The “seven” that I’m thinking of might be a mistranslation of that, or might be from elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1510 "2024-07-01T15:33:51Z")

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Somebody added “third” and fourth."

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1511 "2024-07-08T16:58:42Z")

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I pit him and the fact that he was able to stay at large for so long. But hopefully he’ll face justice soon.

> **[‘So I raped you’ Gettysburg College assault suspect can be extradited to US:...](https://www.pennlive.com/crime/2024/07/so-i-raped-you-gettysburg-college-assault-suspect-can-be-extradited-to-us-court.html)**
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> Thirty-one-year-old Ian Cleary of California was arrested in France in April after a three-year search.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1512 "2024-07-08T18:20:47Z")

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All I want to say is that this is the accused rapist.

[![](https://www.pennlive.com/resizer/v2/DVANT5B5XBCQJBTVCDLIGK76ZY.jpg?auth=7a2d13e92edc21208d6bd910e572717afc8a76313f18fdd71615b48858cc7eaf&width=500&quality=90) ](https://www.pennlive.com/resizer/v2/DVANT5B5XBCQJBTVCDLIGK76ZY.jpg?auth=7a2d13e92edc21208d6bd910e572717afc8a76313f18fdd71615b48858cc7eaf&width=500&quality=90)

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1513 "2024-07-08T19:00:47Z")

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He looks very punchable.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1514 "2024-07-08T19:12:03Z")

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Absolutely.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1515 "2024-07-08T21:42:12Z")

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My reaction was more Banal Evil than Chaotic Evil. But Evil nevertheless.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1516 "2024-07-08T22:03:10Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> He looks very punchable.

He looks like a cross between Simon Pegg and one of the guys from _The Inbetweeners_.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1517 "2024-07-09T20:30:11Z")

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A good scenario: Every time he sits down to eat, the other inmates grab his plate, throw it against the wall, and tell him to starve.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1518 "2024-07-10T01:34:30Z")

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> **[Texas caregiver is charged with murder and investigated over 20 deaths](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13617661/Texas-caregiver-charged-murder-investigated-deaths.html)**
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> A Texas caregiver who had been charged with abuse and endangering patients is now being investigated over the deaths of 20 people and faces at least one murder charge

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1519 "2024-07-10T04:45:53Z")

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[I’m really starting to get the idea the US military just can’t be trusted to appropriately handle sexual assault cases when the accused is of a high rank.](https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/07/01/air-force-2-star-general-found-not-guilty-of-sexual-assault-jury-avoids-jail-time.html) (The link goes to [Military.com](http://Military.com).)

> A two-star [Air Force](https://www.military.com/air-force) general has been found not guilty of sexually assaulting a subordinate officer by a court-martial jury in Texas and will ultimately avoid jail time after pleading guilty to lesser charges.
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> A panel of eight officers found Maj. Gen. Phillip Stewart not guilty of sexual assault on Saturday, following nearly two weeks of court proceedings at [Joint Base San Antonio](https://www.military.com/base-guide/joint-base-san-antonio). The former commander of the 19th Air Force was found guilty of other charges, including conduct unbecoming an officer and one specification of dereliction of duty; prior to the trial, he pleaded guilty to the other specification, as well as an adultery charge.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1520 "2024-07-10T09:34:06Z")

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Not sure their record for lower ranks is much better, tbh.

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