# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 80
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1581 "2024-08-06T16:54:05Z")
No excusing any brutality in the training/hazing going on, but wouldn’t/shouldn’t having this as a side-effect of one’s medical condition preclude working in a field that will inevitably involve periods of high exertion? (I also was unaware of “exertional sickling”.) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1582 "2024-08-06T17:29:31Z")
This happens on Amazon as well. While I just block or report them, every time I post (a complaint) to Amazon’s facebook page I get a bunch of private messages from “Amazon CS” or “Amazons Cust Service” or some other clearly fake account. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1583 "2024-08-06T19:13:52Z")
This seems to be the new normal, but it’s still evil: > **[Charges filed against 14-year-old in hit-and-run crash that killed motorcyclist](https://www.tmj4.com/news/milwaukee-county/charges-filed-against-14-year-old-in-hit-and-run-crash-that-killed-motorcyclist)** > > Charges have been filed against a 14-year-old boy in a hit-and-run crash that left a motorcyclist dead. He's facing five felony counts. On a very busy weekend in Milwaukee, with a Harley Rally, Germanfest and the Air and Water show, any one of which, by itself, will draw a huge crowd, but all three together made for a very congested city. Two kids mugged a woman, stole a car (unclear if it was her car), took off in the stolen car, hit and killed a motorcyclist, dropped a gun and then fled the scene. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1584 "2024-08-06T19:23:50Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > No excusing any brutality in the training/hazing going on, but wouldn’t/shouldn’t having this as a side-effect of one’s medical condition preclude working in a field that will inevitably involve periods of high exertion? There are plenty of police jobs that don’t involve high exertion. In fact, doing most police jobs well means low exertion. The cops who think they need to be action heroes are generally the worst ones. ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1585 "2024-08-06T19:33:06Z")
In June in Telluride, CO someone twice strung barbed wire across the most popular local beginner dirt bike trail at neck level. Took one kid off his bike but he was standing. The 2nd strand was seen by a guy riding at night before he hit it. So the Forest Service closed the trail for the year of course, giving this attempted murderer exactly what they wanted… ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1586 "2024-08-06T21:15:43Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > TIL the term “exertional sickling”. I had no idea that was a thing. I strongly suspect the officer had sickle trait, rather than sickle cell disease. Sickle trait means you have one copy of the sickle cell gene, rather than two. Most such folks live healthy lives (including a greater resistance to malaria than normal folks) but under high altitude or extreme exertional conditions they can have a sickle crisis event. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1587 "2024-08-06T21:22:28Z")
No need to suspect sickle cell trait; that’s what the AP article linked to upthread says. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1588 "2024-08-06T21:23:07Z")
Ah, I missed that bit. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1589 "2024-08-07T00:18:36Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > dropped a gun and then fled the scene. But did they take the canolli? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1590 "2024-08-07T00:33:30Z")
This guy is going to get someone seriously hurt or killed. I really hope they can crack down on him. > **[Tornado ‘Forecast’ In Cochise County Prompts Warning About Unofficial Weather...](https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2022/08/08/tornado-forecast-in-cochise-county-prompts-warning-about-unofficial-weather-alerts/)** > > A self-professed meteorologist from California with more than 50,000 Facebook followers and a penchant for threatening naysayers posted last week that Cochise County was under a tornado watch, prompting a “panic inducing” response from the public,... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1591 "2024-08-07T01:03:01Z")
> A self-professed meteorologist from California [![](https://media.gettyimages.com/id/617888224/photo/funny-1980s-computer-man-at-desk-with-coffee.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=kygB09us_JLb5FuUiPpSixK7d2nH0j7T7zm5zzjrYcE=) ](https://media.gettyimages.com/id/617888224/photo/funny-1980s-computer-man-at-desk-with-coffee.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=kygB09us_JLb5FuUiPpSixK7d2nH0j7T7zm5zzjrYcE=) “I study meteors!” ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1592 "2024-08-07T09:20:59Z")
And here’s (blurred) video of the crash. These kids drove through that biker like he wasn’t even there. > **[Milwaukee hit-and-run; motorcyclist killed, 14-year-old charged](https://www.fox6now.com/news/milwaukee-fatal-crash-1st-walker-charges?anvt=51)** > > Minutes before the fatal crash, police said the stolen vehicle took off from an attempted traffic stop. > “He has no ability to post that kind of a bond, nor does he have any sort of ability to flee to start a new life or go into hiding for period of time,” said Defense Attorney Paul Rifelj. Tough shit. He admitted he did it, the cops already knew him from previous armed robberies and car thefts. He can and should, so far as I’m concerned rot in jail as he’s very clearly a danger to the community. Also, I hope someone explains to his attorney that he has very clearly demonstrated that he does, in fact, have the ability to flee. I’m curious what their rational was for that statement. I assume it’s just a boilerplate ‘let my client out of jail’ line, but it’d be laughable if they made that statement based on him not having a car or DL. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1593 "2024-08-07T12:25:16Z")
Just in case anyone forgot that the DPRK government is evil, [here’s your latest reminder](https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/north-korea-floods-propaganda-videos-surveillance-censorship-08052024160109.html). (The link goes to Radio Free Asia.) > North Koreans who lost everything when last week’s floodwaters submerged their island homes–killing their families in some cases–were forbidden from expressing grief, residents in the country told Radio Free Asia. The rest of the article shows even more evil. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1594 "2024-08-07T13:24:55Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Also, I hope someone explains to his attorney that he has very clearly demonstrated that he does, in fact, have the ability to flee Flee in the sense of steal a car and drive it until it runs out of gas? Sure. Flee in teh sense of establish a new secret life in another state? probably tough for a 14yo. Even a precociously psycho 14yo. But overall, yeah, the kid deserves to rot in confinement UFN. His f-ed up nature may or may not be his fault, but it’s a good bet there’s no fixing him, so isolating him remains society’s sole rational choice… ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1595 "2024-08-07T13:44:37Z")
Well, certainly inflicting cruel and unusual punishment on a teenager will help him possibly become a better person. I say let’s throw all the little brats in jail and brick up the doors. /s ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1596 "2024-08-07T14:03:32Z")
We don’t have the technological ability to rehabilitate the vast majority. Would that it was otherwise. As I said, it may not be at all his “fault” he’s the way he is. But he and we are stuck with it. Pretending the situation is otherwise does no one any good. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1597 "2024-08-07T14:26:31Z")
We’ve got that sort of bullshit happening in these parts too, but they are going after mountain bikers. I hope they catch this asshole. > **['I may pour concrete': Saboteur vandalizes new Beacon Hill bike trails with...](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/jul/17/i-may-pour-concrete-saboteur-vandalizes-new-beacon/)** > > A saboteur is making mountain biking even more dangerous at Beacon Hill by damaging trails and threatening more vandalism as the city of Spokane makes improvements to the popular area’s parking lots and trails. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1598 "2024-08-07T15:20:05Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > This guy is going to get someone seriously hurt or killed. I really hope they can crack down on him. The guy sounds like a tool, idiot, one of those self-important people who view themselves as the lone voice in the wilderness saving us from ourselves, but if people get panicky about a tornado WATCH, they need some help, too. Arizona gets like five tornadoes a year, and we’re a big state that’s mostly empty space. The last one I remember in Mesa was like 35 years ago, and the only thing it hit (of course it did) was a trailer home. No injuries. If people were to start panicking from tornado watches, the entire midwest will be living in their basements from June to October. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1599 "2024-08-07T16:10:21Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > This guy is going to get someone seriously hurt or killed. I really hope they can crack down on him. A guy that gets off on forecasting weather that isn’t going to happen is pretty hard pressed to kill someone. If his habit was forecasting a nice day on days a hurricane really was coming through, that’d be a different story. For those who don’t know, Cochise County is pretty well wackadoodle Central even in generally wackadoodle AZ. And except for high heat, almost always has rather benign weather. Yes, they get an occasional severe thunderstorm during monsoon season. But you can look out the window and see whether it’s heading your way pretty easily. ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1600 "2024-08-07T16:11:30Z")
The trail is also very popular with mountain bikers–it’s only open to Moto for 3 months. It was a generic catch all that happened to grab a dirt biker. We had a guy here who was convinced we were on a closed trail (we were not) and he tried to pull my friend off his bike. Guy was in his sixties and my buddy is in his thirties, 225#, and _in full body armor_. My other friend (my orthopedist) offered to bet him $500 cash that we were legal and would accompany him to the trailhead. For some reason he wouldn’t take the bet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=79) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496.md?page=81)