# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1621 "2024-08-13T20:23:27Z")

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Countdown to his GoFundMe page to help with his medical expenses that he incurred in a “traffic accident”.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1622 "2024-08-13T20:24:50Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Sure, get kicked out of the strip club, what’s the best response? Ram your semi into the building and kill somebody.

I can’t imagine why they might kick out such an individual.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1623 "2024-08-13T20:27:32Z")

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Also, he stole the truck, I guess? “it’s not known how the suspect got access to the semi.” Unless some fool just left it unlocked.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1624 "2024-08-13T20:27:34Z")

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“it’s not known how the suspect got access to the semi”

The truck wasn’t his? Stealing a semi seems like a story in and of itself.

My dad has a friend that was a bouncer back in his 20’s. He kicked someone out and they guy came back later and ran over him. That was probably 40 years ago and if he’s wearing shorts you can still see that something’s wrong with his knee.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1625 "2024-08-13T20:59:49Z")

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If you follow up on the not-fox vids, it seems the guy didn’t damage the building and may not even have damaged the truck much beyond scuffed paint. It _almost_ looks like the building is a converted loading dock and he’d have gone head-on into the usual 4’ tall concrete base of the building if he’d continued. Which wouldn’t give an inch if hit even at speed. Not the hallmark of an experienced trucker.

Evidently he rammed the crowd outside.

I’m struggling to reconcile an undamaged truck w a critically injured driver. Unless he was impaled on some flimsy awning support he knocked over. Or maybe he was pulled from the truck by the intact members of the crowd and beaten nearly to death.

Evil, yes. But but far more stupid and /or drunk than evil. At least in the early returns.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1626 "2024-08-13T21:17:51Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I’m struggling to reconcile an undamaged truck w a critically injured driver.

WAG, he was shit faced and fell out of the cab.  
ETA, I see it says ‘critically’ injured. Maybe those injuries were from bystanders.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1627 "2024-08-13T21:49:04Z")

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He’d have been beyond help if I’d been an undamaged member of that crowd. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1628 "2024-08-14T03:53:36Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Sure, get kicked out of the strip club, what’s the best response? Ram your semi into the building and kill somebody.

Reading the news item, it might have been someone else’s semi…

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1629 "2024-08-14T06:19:51Z")

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I’m sure the strip club has had a lot of patrons’ semis in it in the past.

😏

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1630 "2024-08-14T17:17:24Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Sure, get kicked out of the strip club, what’s the best response? Ram your semi into the building and kill somebody.

[This](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire) still sets the standard for evil in response to being kicked out of a club.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1631 "2024-08-15T10:15:14Z")

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I have to wonder if Disney initially wanted to prevent bad press for a restaurant. This cannot be the best solution, and their press office must be in meltdown from complaints and questions. I know I’d be dropping my Disney+ account if I was about to visit one of their theme parks.

> **[Disney says man can't sue over wife's death because he agreed to Disney+...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/disney-says-man-cant-sue-wifes-death-agreed-disney-terms-service-rcna166594)**
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> Jeffrey J. Piccolo filed a wrongful death lawsuit after his wife, Dr. Kanokporn Tangsuan, died after she consumed food containing allergens at a restaurant in Disney World.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1632 "2024-08-15T10:20:11Z")

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Paging Max\_S!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1633 "2024-08-15T11:26:25Z")

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Ref Disney, see dedicated thread here

> [@If you signed up for Disney Plus Disney says you can't sue them for any reason](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-signed-up-for-disney-plus-disney-says-you-cant-sue-them-for-any-reason/1005733):
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> A man and his wife were assured her food at a Disney park restaurant were free of allergens. It wasn’t and she died and Disney says he can’t sue because a Disney Plus account he has signed up for has an arbitration clause. That just pure 21st Century Capitalism right there.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1634 "2024-08-15T11:29:15Z")

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I should have guessed there would be a thread dedicated to this-it’s just too weird.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1635 "2024-08-15T13:27:56Z")

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His wife was a doctor (the article doesn’t say what kind), and he’s suing for $50,000 in damages. That seems rather low for a wrongful death claim, doesn’t it?

ETA, given the low amount, I’m somewhat surprised Disney didn’t just write the check. Surely he could have sued for millions, and this kerfuffle over this crazy claim is going to cost them a lot in lost brand value.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1636 "2024-08-15T13:40:10Z")

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That defense is a _really_ bad look for Disney over a $50K lawsuit. “Yeah, we poisoned her, but he clicked on some terms of agreement for Disney+ that should have alerted him to be extra careful about potential negligence.” Disney made more from turkey legs that day, come on.

Maybe they’re afraid of a precedent? Before I retired (from a Fortune 100 firm) our Chief Info Security Officer insisted we place very little weight on terms of agreement in protecting us from lawsuits over info breaches—_even when the breach is the fault of the user._ Courts don’t have a lot of sympathy for Big Bad Corporations who formulate legalese for uninformed clients to click on. It’s often considered bad faith no matter how unambiguous the legalese is.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1637 "2024-08-15T14:10:34Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> His wife was a doctor (the article doesn’t say what kind), and he’s suing for $50,000 in damages. That seems rather low for a wrongful death claim, doesn’t it?

The lawsuit (as cited by NPR) is for “more than $50,000 in damages”. That seems to be a standard formula in filing such suits. The goal would be to collect a _lot_ more than that.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1638 "2024-08-15T15:32:40Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> Maybe they’re afraid of a precedent? Before I retired (from a Fortune 100 firm) our Chief Info Security Officer insisted we place very little weight on terms of agreement in protecting us from lawsuits over info breaches—_even when the breach is the fault of the user._ Courts don’t have a lot of sympathy for Big Bad Corporations who formulate legalese for uninformed clients to click on. It’s often considered bad faith no matter how unambiguous the legalese is.

I was wondering about how binding the terms of service could be given how few people read them or are qualified to understand them.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1639 "2024-08-15T19:32:53Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> His wife was a doctor (the article doesn’t say what kind),

Digging deep into a NPR site it appears she was a DO (medical doctor of osteopathy) who specialized in family medicine, a particularly needed specialty of primary care for both adults, children and obstetrics. She reportedly did a great deal of charity work to the underserved both locally in NY and with trips back to her family homeland of Thailand. A grievous loss indeed.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1640 "2024-08-15T22:43:45Z")

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I had two choices for [this story (Yahoo link)](https://www.yahoo.com/news/12-old-texas-girl-dies-203538520.html), either the omnibus stupid or the ombinus evil thread. The coin flip decided on evil.

> **12-year-old Texas girl dies after parents used smoothies to treat life-threatening injuries**

Highlights from the article:

1. The mother and stepfather tried to “nurse her back to health” with smoothies and vitamins.
2. The girl was unconcious for four days while they tried their home remedy.
3. The parents finally called 9-1-1 when the poor girl had trouble breathing.
4. The parents met the emergency responders on the highway and likely waited days to call 9-1-1 because of illegal activity in the home.

Yeah. That coin knew where to land this post.

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