# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1821 "2024-10-10T20:06:06Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> Arsenic and rattlesnakes are both natural too, but if I had a kid I wouldn’t want anyone giving either one of those to him/her.

And the “non-toxic” part is bullshit as well. First of all, due to allergies what is non-toxic to me might not be non-toxic to someone else. I mentioned peanuts before, but the dipshit in that article comment could use the same logic for feeding peanuts to kids with allergies, except that it would be a stronger argument. Peanuts are non-toxic, natural, and a good source of protein and sustenance. Why not give them to all kids?

And let us not forget Paracelsus, who far back in the 16th century said, “The dose makes the poison.” Harmless ingredients could be harmful when concentrated enough. Even the snake oil called Zicam, which was only legal because homeopathic remedies are usually nothing more than magic water and therefore harmless, had such high doses of zinc that they could cause permanent loss of smell in an old formulation.

So no, fuck ignorant assholes who think it’s fine for teachers to dose kids with who the fuck knows what without permission or notification in violation of school policy.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1822 "2024-10-10T20:26:24Z")

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Don’t like your kids? Go ahead and dump them on the side of the road.

> According to the complaint, the two children told police that their mother, Heather Ann Perez Miranda, left them along the side of the road after telling them to get out of her truck and that nobody loved them.

[Iowa crime: Cedar Rapids woman allegedly abandoned 2 children on roadside (kcci.com)](https://www.kcci.com/article/heather-ann-perez-miranda-charged-child-abandonment-cedar-rapids-iowa/62569092)

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1823 "2024-10-10T20:31:38Z")

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A Facebook poster with 1.1K followers who appears to specialize in disaster porn, has posted that “potential hurricane Nadine is on path to HIT Florida in the wake of category 5 Milton”.

There is no new disturbance in the Atlantic, Gulf or Caribbean that currently poses a significant threat of tropical cyclone development, much less being on a “path to HIT Florida”

What a disinformation-spreading weaselette.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1824 "2024-10-10T20:58:53Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Don’t like your kids? Go ahead and dump them on the side of the road.

That may in fact be the best thing she’s ever done for them. They _will_ get new parents out of this deal. Who almost can’t be worse parents.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1825 "2024-10-10T22:17:27Z")

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The new parents will be foster parents, surely, at least for the girl, who will be difficult to get adopted with that amount of medical care required (tracheostomy, and g-tube implanted her body). Better, probably, in any case, but also probably far from ideal.

I wonder why it took the authorities 3 months after the incident to arrest her. She’s also being charged with domestic violence assault, for slugging her live-in fella (apparently not the children’s father).

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1826 "2024-10-10T23:34:37Z")

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The article says she has _at least_ four other kids:

> Police interviewed the man the children identified as their dad. He told investigators that he and Perez Miranda had been in a fight earlier that day and that she had punched him in the face. Investigators later determined that man is not the childrens’ biological father, but he does have four biological children with Perez Miranda who she had with her at the time of the incident.

Maybe there just wasn’t room for 6 kids in the truck so kicked 2 of them out.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1827 "2024-10-11T15:11:01Z")

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And of course one of them had tubes inserted in various parts of her body. I wonder what was wrong with the boy?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1828 "2024-10-11T23:54:25Z")

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The stickers appear to have been identified as Klova Z Patches containing melatonin, not essential oil stickers for clothes.

> **[Parents Allege Spring ISD Preschool Teachers Used 'Sleepy' Stickers to Drug Kids](https://dallasexpress.com/state/parents-allege-spring-isd-preschool-teachers-used-sleepy-stickers-to-drug-kids/)**
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> Parents say that preschool teachers at an elementary school in the Houston area have been giving their children melatonin patches without their consent.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1829 "2024-10-12T00:08:13Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> The stickers appear to have been identified as Klova Z Patches containing melatonin, not essential oil stickers for clothes.

Yup, here is Amazon selling them and they look exactly like the photo in the article.

> **[Amazon.com: Klova Sleep Support Patches with Ashwagandha, L-Theanine, Hops,...](https://www.amazon.com/Klova-Melatonin-Ingredients-Promotes-eliminates/dp/B077XZ9CHP)**
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> Amazon.com: Klova Sleep Support Patches with Ashwagandha, L-Theanine, Hops, Melatonin, Valerian, GABA and Other Natural Ingredients: for Falling Asleep Faster, Staying Asleep Longer & Eliminating Groggy Mornings

[![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61iF5o+sEOL._AC_SL1500_.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61iF5o+sEOL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

[![](https://static.independent.co.uk/2024/10/09/16/newFile-2.jpg?quality=75&width=1250&crop=3%3A2%2Csmart&auto=webp) ](https://static.independent.co.uk/2024/10/09/16/newFile-2.jpg?quality=75&width=1250&crop=3%3A2%2Csmart&auto=webp)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1830 "2024-10-12T00:17:12Z")

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I’m kind of surprised that they were apparently willing to pay $1 or more per nap per child out of their own pockets.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1831 "2024-10-12T04:31:21Z")

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My mother was a grade school teacher for many years, and she did buy some classroom materials with her own money. And she was not the only one. Because, going through channels could be a major PitA. Never heard of her buying sedagives, though.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1832 "2024-10-12T06:48:15Z")

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It’s always nice to see a real feel-good story in the news these days.

> <https://x.com/nypost/status/1844875724060065815>

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1833 "2024-10-12T13:53:20Z")

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Oh, the humanity!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1834 "2024-10-12T15:49:37Z")

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Oh, the inhumanity!

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1835 "2024-10-12T17:11:53Z")

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The only thing I hate more than Illinois Nazis are Untersberg Nazis.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1836 "2024-10-12T20:16:11Z")

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One of the comments at bottom of article mentioned Trumpists holding a candlelight vigil tonight at 8 pm at NYU.

Joshing?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1837 "2024-10-12T21:27:12Z")

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a vigil for a guy who splatted two weeks ago seems somewhat unlikely

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1838 "2024-10-12T22:01:01Z")

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This January, a home flipper sold a recently remodeled house in Grand Junction, CO, and the new owner discovered a large freezer on the property which they didn’t need, and decided to give it away online. When a person who responded to their ad came to pick up the freezer, they opened it up for presumably the first time in years - and discovered a severed human head and a pair of hands.

Today, police have identified the body parts as belonging to a 16-year-old girl, who had not been seen or heard from since 2005 but was apparently never reported missing.

Prior to its being flipped, the owner of the home was the girl’s father. His location is not currently known.

> **[Head and hands found in Colorado freezer belong to 16-year-old girl last seen...](https://abc13.com/post/head-hands-found-colorado-freezer-belong-16-year-old-girl-last-seen-2005/15419494/)**
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> The head and hands of a 16-year-old girl last seen in 2005 has been discovered in a freezer by someone who was collecting the free appliance from a recently sold home.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1839 "2024-10-13T04:43:22Z")

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There is a lot of “why didn’t anyone open that freezer” in that story.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1840 "2024-10-13T04:51:20Z")

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There was an almost identical case on Forensic Files back in the day - a new homeowner discovered a body in a 55-gallon drum, who turned out to have been the mistress of the man who owned the house before the person who sold it to him.

I’m guessing either the home flipper never opened the freezer, or the body parts were buried under a bunch of old stuff and they never dug through it.

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